Can a fake without a market?

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

A eto kniga? Esli da, to kto avtor?

This book is not written, but a lot of myths and legends.

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Сообщение от mihailovoh

the work performed W clover and students.

There are many, and it's not fake.

[kozhinart]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

This is literature.
Read: Dina Rubina "The white dove of Cordoba". http://lib.aldebaran.ru/author/rubin...ordovy__0.html

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Legends and myths of the art market.

I have described it as a kind of pattern ... In life dumb pozhesche ... You can not kill anyone ... and no money to pay ... And the buyer is unlikely to find out ...
There are many reasons for which people are produced imitations. It is difficult to understand what is happening in their mind. Some create "falshaki" only because it is an easy way to earn money, others, like Han van Meegeren, want to teach a lesson to critics and experts, and others do it just for fun ...

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от kozhinart

Some create "falshaki" only because it is an easy way to earn money

Pochemu vy dumaete, chto eto liogkii sposob? Znaniia materialov, tehniki, istorii i vsego drugogo. Ia dumaiu, chto poddel'schik (serioznyi) dolzen porabotat 'pobol'she hudoznika, kotoryi sozdaval original.

others, like Han van Meegeren, want to teach a lesson to critics and experts, and others do it just for fun ...

Horoshii primer Eric Hebborn.

Kstati v 1996 godu emu prolomili cherep toporom.

Vyiavlenie poddelok ne vsegda vygodno.

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Сообщение от kozhinart

There are many reasons for which people are produced imitations.

I already wrote once here that in the scheme of production and, most importantly!, Selling fakes, the artist (producer) - a bottom-up link. In this scheme, many participants and they each other (usually) do not know. They know "producer of the project."

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Vyiavlenie poddelok ne vsegda vygodno.

Rather, the announcement of the identification.

[mihailovoh]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

This book is not written, but a lot of myths and legends.

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There are many, but it's not fake.

Eto.po my opinion. copyright counterfeiting Workshop W Klever (causing his signature to the work of other hudozhnikov.pust and less famous). as well as many works by Aivazovsky for American vystavki.Hotya or who do not want this priznavat.uzh a lot of money.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Seriy

kozhinart, but with the artist here? You can buy a dozen marinas, sign them Aivazovsky. Who gives as another original author - and he commits an offense.
90%of contemporary artists, writers still lives in the so-called "realism" can be accused of copying and shamelessly leverage from Cezanne. And what of that? They'll not pass it off as original Cezanne. Someone who takes this work and gives a Cezanne, and he commits forgery.

Not to be confused with the deliberate creative bankruptcy criminal schemes.
Cezanne opened the way around the modern art and its merit is that all can work this way, but some directly imitate, while others find their way.
Poddelschik is a thief and he is looking for ways not as easy money: forged sold, received money and beat it.

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Сообщение от mihailovoh

fake copyrights

That's, excuse me, just for me a marvelous definition-"copyright fraud".

[mihailovoh]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

That's, excuse me, just for me a marvelous definition-"copyright fraud".

If I were to characterize the work of Yu yasno.kak clover. Written by others in his stile.a they only signed and almost podpravlennye.ya would not write in this topic.
Of course if you have to prodavat.sam will be foaming at the mouth if there dokazyvat.chto ekspertiza.nechego guess.
Recently, someone here dokazyval.chto 100td fines for * *. kleverkov need at least 360td.

[Buscador]

Any tampering, under the assumed name with aim of obtaining profits. Form fakes a lot. And the artist in them is the key person when:
1. Writes in the style and manner of the master ordered the forgery of the signature ..
2. Creates copies of the works of famous masters, not by placing an appropriate copy of itself.
Anyone self-respecting artist must sign, under the established product (remember, as in the movie "Garage" the professor left their business cards in batches of potatoes ...).
As for signature by the works of masters of their students (with minor modifications), then fake it does not call. This is a fairly common form of work is already well-known masters, when podmalevki them make disciples ... This form vysokogodoveriya ...

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от gans

Can not quite in the subject.
A copy of Soutine, an Odessa artist Sergei Lykov.

http://sergeylykov.com/index.html

gans, even in the very subject! In comparisons with the original (portrait of Mary Lamy, written by Chaim Soutine in 1929), we can find a pretty significant differences. The fact is that to make copies Soutine with it over expressive manner it seems to me a matter of not rewarding! No thanks, in the event that seeks to exactly copy the thing. But if an artist does this in order to understand the maitre with the technical side, that is, in order to penetrate even a little, the mystery of his creative cuisine, it probably makes sense. I am also interested in another question here, what the artist puts it up for public display? Replies may be several! First - a demonstration of its technical capabilities as a painter. Secondly - this is a kind of creative manifesto. Thirdly - this is a banal advertising services (or product), which in the presence of the customer can be provided. Any of these motives, and especially the last one, can not lead us to the end to believe that in a situation in which the maestro will turn someone who has ambitious plans to introduce someone in error, obtains the agreement! If this happens, the history of mankind that will not happen in the first nor the last time! This, of course, only an assumption (for which I apologize to the artist), which should not be inferred that it was Sergei Lykov necessarily take such a proposal, but the assumption would agree, based on historical facts and reality! Here is the very interesting possibility, albeit speculative, such a development ...
 
This assumption I made in order to put the following questions. Violate a moral norm of modern (and not only) social artist, who agreed to the proposal to write the work in a creative manner commercially successful colleagues (his contemporary, or long dead)? One of the conditions of such proposal is the observance of all the material - technical reasons, including the presence of a simulated signature of the artist or the absence of a signature at all (the lack of signature is possible to level to its existence) in the absence of any kind have been hints that it is a copy (eg on the back or the front side)? Who is the artist? Is there something that justifies it in the eyes of society? Or he's a criminal, without the right to forbearance?

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