Sense of justice is living outside of the logical areas of the brain - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

kozhinart · 22-12-2009, 13:49

The distribution of the benefits of the people manifest themselves in different ways. Some tend to take as much as possible, and that others at the same time will be left out, they do not care. Others feel comfortable with an equal distribution, ie, have an inner sense of social justice.

This feature could study at the level of the brain Masahiko Haruno (Masahiko Haruno), a neuroscientist at the Tamagawa University (Tamagawa University) in Tokyo. The scientist decided to experiment to answer the question to what extent to social justice is relevant cerebral cortex. That is, if it carries a higher control over the brain to suppress the selfish aspirations of man and make him think about others.
This is me, but it too me ...

Scientists began by saying that divided the group of subjects in the "individualists" (which only cares about personal enrichment) and "socialists" (which in fairness). The division conducted on the results of the proposed game in pairs with reward. Among the subjects was 25 "socialists" who chose to equal pay with a partner, and 14 "individualists", who were happy cheated partner.

The next stage of the experiment took place as early as the time when the subjects were in the MRI. They again for the solution of some problem offered rewards: for themselves and for the partner. Amounts intended for the very party and partner differed in each test by different amounts. Were asked to rate in numbers by pressing a button, to the extent they are satisfied with the distribution.
Social justice - it is not reason, but feeling

In the analysis of functional magnetic resonance tomograms of the brain, scientists compared the activity of different areas with more or less inequality of remuneration for the most members and partner. It turned out that only one region, namely the amygdala (neuroscientists often use the term "amygdala") stepped up its activity in the inequitable distribution, and it reacted only with the "socialists", while "individualists" - nothing. In the first group of the amygdala has intensified the stronger, the greater the difference in the amount of compensation to himself and others.

Some other areas of the brain, such as an island, anterior cingulate gyrus, striatum and dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is also activated with a big difference in the distribution, but they react in the event that the subject received no more, but less than the partner. Moreover, the reaction did not differ in the two groups. And only the amygdala is clearly not taken the injustice against another.

For scientists, this meant the answer to the question. These experiments showed that social justice is carried out at the subcortex, but not the crust. It is not subject to cognitive control by the cortex. Hence, rejection of inequality - the phenomenon is not conscious, and intuitive, automatic.

The latter conclusion, scientists were able to check in one more experiment in which they compared the speed of reaction to perceived injustice at a speed of reaction. The conclusion is fully confirmed.

Article on where in the brain breeds a sense of social justice, came on 21 December in Nature.

AlexanderG · 22-12-2009, 13:58

Lishnee podtverzdenie tomu, chto ravenstva ne suschestvuet.

Деко · 22-12-2009, 15:39

As it is not sad, it individualists moving progress. It does not matter in a straight or spiral.
Distributed equally to anything good does not. Oh how many times tried.
By the way, the core collection, including this feature is the man as possessiveness, the desire to possess anything. What others do not. About equality in this aspect we are not talking.
If everyone had the opportunity to have in his home Picasso 100x120, the price he would have been three rubles a market day. At the same artistic merit. The sense of "equality" with other collectors is incompatible with the desire to possess exclusive.
I think the reluctance of equality inherent in living organisms, somewhere at the genetic level. Even in the forest have a term e, as different degrees of oppression. If all the trees in the forest will be the same height, the sun at all is not enough.

ВЯЧЕСЛАВ · 22-12-2009, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deco

distributed equally to anything good does not. Oh how many times tried.
By the way, the core collection, including this feature is the man as possessiveness, the desire to possess anything. What others do not. About equality in this aspect we are not talking.
If everyone had the opportunity to have in his home Picasso 100x120, the price he would have been three rubles a market day. At the same artistic merit. The sense of "equality" with other collectors is incompatible with the desire to possess exclusive.
I think the reluctance of equality inherent in living organisms, somewhere at the genetic level. Even in the forest have a term e, as different degrees of oppression. If all the trees in the forest will be the same height, the sun is not enough at all.

It is not clear then, why are you sobbing in the other topic "Publications such collections - great harm. Simply dropped his hands)))" http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...451#post808451

Деко · 22-12-2009, 16:08

Dear, sobbing girl, when the marriage did not take.
Or, dear sirs, when vainly trying to recall when they were joking the last time. If they did this time was.

Кирилл Сызранский · 22-12-2009, 16:10

VYACHESLAV, ibid Deco explained.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deco

You do not take literally everything that I write. I joke sometimes.

easier for me, I know his intonation and already know where the joke, for that matter, and he recognized me.

Деко · 22-12-2009, 16:17

Apologize in advance to all the "respectable moles" (this from "Thumbelina") for the verbal pirouettes. Several eases my fate by the fact that Voltaire also joked, when correspondence with Catherine the 2-nd. Catherine liked ...

ВЯЧЕСЛАВ · 22-12-2009, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

Vyacheslav, ibid Decaux said.

Explanation Seriy, though not copyright, but closer to the wafer, but does not upset that someone could hang himself on the wall Picasso 120x100, and some garbage illegible 10h18 :-) "

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deco

If everyone had the opportunity to have in his home Picasso 100x120, the price he would have been three rubles a market day. At the same artistic merit. The sense of "equality" with other collectors is incompatible with the desire to possess exclusive.
I think the reluctance of equality inherent in living organisms, somewhere at the genetic level. Even in the forest have a term e, as different degrees of oppression. If all the trees in the forest will be the same height, the sun is not enough at all.

Деко · 22-12-2009, 16:53

Vyacheslav I was confused, too many citations and slozhnosochinennyh proposals. To all returned to the proposed topic, to report that I have nothing omitted and nothing upsets.
Vyacheslav, when a joke in any subject, if you please, throw ссылочку. Stopped believing that you are from Odessa.

Вивьен · 22-12-2009, 16:58

You're joking, Deco, you cheerfully --
laugh more often - it raises our spirits !

22-12-2009, 13:49	Original language: Russian #1
kozhinart Старожил Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Moscow,Russia Posts: 694 Thanks: 1,324 Thanked 1,086 Times in 255 Posts Blog Entries: 14 Reputation: 2082	Sense of justice is living outside of the logical areas of the brain The distribution of the benefits of the people manifest themselves in different ways. Some tend to take as much as possible, and that others at the same time will be left out, they do not care. Others feel comfortable with an equal distribution, ie, have an inner sense of social justice. This feature could study at the level of the brain Masahiko Haruno (Masahiko Haruno), a neuroscientist at the Tamagawa University (Tamagawa University) in Tokyo. The scientist decided to experiment to answer the question to what extent to social justice is relevant cerebral cortex. That is, if it carries a higher control over the brain to suppress the selfish aspirations of man and make him think about others. This is me, but it too me ... Scientists began by saying that divided the group of subjects in the "individualists" (which only cares about personal enrichment) and "socialists" (which in fairness). The division conducted on the results of the proposed game in pairs with reward. Among the subjects was 25 "socialists" who chose to equal pay with a partner, and 14 "individualists", who were happy cheated partner. The next stage of the experiment took place as early as the time when the subjects were in the MRI. They again for the solution of some problem offered rewards: for themselves and for the partner. Amounts intended for the very party and partner differed in each test by different amounts. Were asked to rate in numbers by pressing a button, to the extent they are satisfied with the distribution. Social justice - it is not reason, but feeling In the analysis of functional magnetic resonance tomograms of the brain, scientists compared the activity of different areas with more or less inequality of remuneration for the most members and partner. It turned out that only one region, namely the amygdala (neuroscientists often use the term "amygdala") stepped up its activity in the inequitable distribution, and it reacted only with the "socialists", while "individualists" - nothing. In the first group of the amygdala has intensified the stronger, the greater the difference in the amount of compensation to himself and others. Some other areas of the brain, such as an island, anterior cingulate gyrus, striatum and dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is also activated with a big difference in the distribution, but they react in the event that the subject received no more, but less than the partner. Moreover, the reaction did not differ in the two groups. And only the amygdala is clearly not taken the injustice against another. For scientists, this meant the answer to the question. These experiments showed that social justice is carried out at the subcortex, but not the crust. It is not subject to cognitive control by the cortex. Hence, rejection of inequality - the phenomenon is not conscious, and intuitive, automatic. The latter conclusion, scientists were able to check in one more experiment in which they compared the speed of reaction to perceived injustice at a speed of reaction. The conclusion is fully confirmed. Article on where in the brain breeds a sense of social justice, came on 21 December in Nature.

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22-12-2009, 15:39	Original language: Russian #3
Деко Местный Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Киев Posts: 127 Thanks: 332 Thanked 278 Times in 76 Posts Reputation: 535	As it is not sad, it individualists moving progress. It does not matter in a straight or spiral. Distributed equally to anything good does not. Oh how many times tried. By the way, the core collection, including this feature is the man as possessiveness, the desire to possess anything. What others do not. About equality in this aspect we are not talking. If everyone had the opportunity to have in his home Picasso 100x120, the price he would have been three rubles a market day. At the same artistic merit. The sense of "equality" with other collectors is incompatible with the desire to possess exclusive. I think the reluctance of equality inherent in living organisms, somewhere at the genetic level. Even in the forest have a term e, as different degrees of oppression. If all the trees in the forest will be the same height, the sun at all is not enough.

22-12-2009, 16:08	Original language: Russian #5
Деко Местный Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Киев Posts: 127 Thanks: 332 Thanked 278 Times in 76 Posts Reputation: 535	Dear, sobbing girl, when the marriage did not take. Or, dear sirs, when vainly trying to recall when they were joking the last time. If they did this time was.

22-12-2009, 16:17	Original language: Russian #7
Деко Местный Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Киев Posts: 127 Thanks: 332 Thanked 278 Times in 76 Posts Reputation: 535	Apologize in advance to all the "respectable moles" (this from "Thumbelina") for the verbal pirouettes. Several eases my fate by the fact that Voltaire also joked, when correspondence with Catherine the 2-nd. Catherine liked ...

22-12-2009, 16:53	Original language: Russian #9
Деко Местный Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Киев Posts: 127 Thanks: 332 Thanked 278 Times in 76 Posts Reputation: 535	Vyacheslav I was confused, too many citations and slozhnosochinennyh proposals. To all returned to the proposed topic, to report that I have nothing omitted and nothing upsets. Vyacheslav, when a joke in any subject, if you please, throw ссылочку. Stopped believing that you are from Odessa.

22-12-2009, 16:58	Original language: Russian #10
Вивьен Гуру Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ОДЕССА Posts: 4,095 Thanks: 10,539 Thanked 8,270 Times in 1,817 Posts Reputation: 15226	You're joking, Deco, you cheerfully -- laugh more often - it raises our spirits !