Auction Oct. 25, 2008, Mr. Triumph of Socialist Realism "

[Konstantin]

Replied Sovkom.

Provenance: we received from the private collection Sysoeva VP, in
       which came after the dissolution mastreskoy Deineki.

If you have questions - ask, will be meeting today with Tyukhtin - before.

[LCR]

Some rather unconvincing examination.
I think that the picture was written not earlier than 2 nd polviny the 19 th century, many of the forum participants guessed, and not by studying the soil.

Of course, it is interesting to learn that she could not be written until 1935 or even 1936, but the most interesting question: could it be written, for example, last year, for some reason is not affected.

The stylistic analysis is also not convincing: in fact, an expert claims authorship Deineki on the basis of numerous borrowings from earlier works, which is precisely cast doubts on the authenticity of work.
It is not clear, why Alexander would be ripped off his previous works to create a sort of pictorial quilt, as if he feared that if he would draw something "away", then he will fail?

Here Deineka, whom I love

[Кирилл Сызранский]

It would be interesting to look in a book about Sysoeva Deineko is, there is a reproduction of this painting, which itself VP Sysoev, and gave the conclusion that came up for auction from him.

[qwerty]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

It would be interesting to look in a book about Sysoeva Deineko is, there is a reproduction of this painting, which itself VP Sysoev, and gave the conclusion that came up for auction from him.

We Sysoeva have a dozen books about Deineko. He published them regularly, since 1959, last two volumes came out in 1989 (later editions I have not seen). Last night for fun all flipped: No there, of course, no mention of this masterpiece. As you know, if this thing was mentioned in any book or be on any show, this auction must be reported.

This does not change, but admitted inaccuracy: a monograph in 1959 did not write Sysoev, and IL Matza. Sorry.

[sss]

I think that all these literary debriefing about the locomotives, nadergannosti plots, etc. become worthless at first glance at the work itself. Seriously you can discuss what is taken seriously. With regards to "running girls" - the infant thin. school. The author would like to wish to engage in the figure, in practice, study tsvetoizlozhenie, because painting - this is not a lot of different colors, and the ratio of one color with another, that there is such a thing as planned and so Agent weight.

A major benefit of peer review in Deineki can not be because the person (self-respecting expert), even slightly familiar with the creativity of the artist (even from reproductions) before the age of the material to evaluate, assess the picture and laugh.

"Picturesque", in my opinion, Deineki not the strongest quality (but with that he's all right), and too graphic artist he was, as they say "from God".
"Anatomical error" from the knowledge of anatomy and the anatomy of ignorance - two different things, and can be seen without a ruler and compass.
In the end, the notion of "manner of writing", "handwriting" - clearly without glasses.
There are things, looking at who can say "knows" or "can not". So there is no single work Deineki that I can say that he "can not". "Traveling Girls" - the first.
These pictures do not even call counterfeiting seriously.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от qwerty

if this thing was mentioned in any book or be on any show, this auction must be reported.

That is the main question. (Trade shows, a reference in the books?).
Maybe there are documents confirming the transfer of this painting in private collection Sysoeva VP?

[Konstantin]

Already on the site will lots of this auction and the painting "Running Hot" expert advice site vacant red indicator.

[sss]

Eugene: Maybe there are documents confirming the transfer of this painting in private collection Sysoeva VP?

Expert dispels doubts, based on knowledge, but does not justify them, based on the title (right poems, some ...).
With all due respect, "kitchen talk" - it certainly is not serious, but here are discussing is not just random people. Everyone has some experience, knowledge and practices (especially with so many "sincerely misguided experts" that put a signature in the documents). At times of such conversations benefit more than from the papers with seals.
Expressed doubts about the artistic "merits" are not baseless.
In my opinion, no provenance that work will not save.
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One artist I found "him" now, obviously not written by them. To the question: "what does this mean?", He replied:
- Yes, that is, once my student ... ... I do not understand! At, say, at least copy the! Copy. So no shit and do not understand ...
The artist died. The items in the inventory delivered to his wife, along with "his" picture.
Provenance impeccable. Documented.
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When fed into the upper school, wrote an essay. He, for whatever reason lost. They offered to re-take the Russian language, write dictation from another group (the national staff written dictation).
At the exit, I got two estimates of "3" and "3".
The first - my hard earned, the second - a guy from Baku, who copied from me, and last name, too.

[Glasha]

sss, a pity that there are no options for the degree of expression of gratitude for the interesting message, for example, "stormy cheers")))

PS. , and in your top three in Russian hard to believe ...

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Konstantin

picture "Running Hot" expert advice site vacant red indicator.

It is logical, more questions than answers.