Who should pay for the hobby?

[Marta]

For others hobbies nobody, of course, pay should not.
 But if the artist would simply make the product correctly on the art market - without love, without passion, without the "pains and joys," Do not disappear from the works of art that distinguishes them among thousands of similar and subconsciously attracts people - their energy, can be even - the soul of these works? Or is it - all the same?

[Posav]

Сообщение от Marta

correctly produce the product on the art market - without love, without passion, without the "pains and pleasures," Do not disappear from the works of art that distinguishes them among thousands of similar

Disappear. However, commercial or marketable art develops differently.

[Mihail]

Сообщение от Marta

For someone else's hobbies nobody, of course, pay should not be.

Razve possible to argue, we must return to the topic of conversation and start over, some nonsense

[Remi]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Still, there are artists who do not write for the market, but because they are artists and can not be different.

 In the passage quoted "market" is used with a negative value. I could not quite clearly explain his idea. "Control Panel", "Krymkskaya Quay" - is the market? You can call and so, although in my opinion rather bazaar.
And the artists who exhibited there - for whom they work? For the market, and would have received more education, would become someone else.
Art salons are not much different - in this sense, the artists working for the market.

I believe that apart from ordinary people who have unusual (and somewhat different from normal), their few, why they exist, few people can explain, but it is their creation, and becoming a classic in the history. And it is such a creator of dreams to find any gallery owner.
Of course, now everything can be explained in terms of marketing and management, but neither Pushkin nor Tsvetaeva is not necessary.

Naive? Let

And I absolutely agree, no one is obliged to pay for someone's hobbies.

That's interesting, if Modelyani would have lived another 50 years, he would be rich? Nobody wanted especially to pay for his passion (for life).

[Mihail]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Still, there are artists who do not write for the market, but because they are artists and can not be different.

Prochital mnozestvennye vyskazyvaniia napomonaiuschee eto v raznyh modifikatsiiah.

Voznik vopros: Esli hudoznik utverzdaet, chto on ne mozet ne pisat, i vsia zizn 'u nego v etom, pochemu on schitaet, chto kto-to za eto dolzen platit'?

Pisal by sebe i horosho, pochemu na rynok rvat'sia nado?

Est 'ogromnoe kolichestvo weekend artists, oni rabotaiut i udeliaiut vremia svoemu liubimomu delu, prodaz ne ozidaiut.

Very awful you understand with this keyboard! Perhaps the first question formulated nekkorektno ....
A second kind of obvious --- for the money market strains, which generally is not so?

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Сообщение от Remi

I totally agree, no one is obliged to pay for someone's hobbies.

 Someone can argue?

[Marta]

Сообщение от Remi

I believe that apart from ordinary people who have unusual (and somewhat different from normal), their few, why they exist, few people can explain, but it is their creation, and becoming a classic in the history. And it is such a creator of dreams to find any gallery owner.

And I just thought (???) Forum that "any gallery owner prefers a predictable, reliable, possibly driven and certainly - a perfectly normal artist. Here in this lies a paradox: on one hand - all of the above is not very typical of the lively creativity, on the other side - all sorts of anomalies and failures - an unnecessary headache for the curator. Where is the balance?

[Mihail]

Сообщение от Remi

That's interesting, if Modelyani would have lived another 50 years, he would be rich? Nobody wanted especially to pay for his passion (for life).

I do not understand, who are demanding payment for his enthusiasm??

[DSF]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Voznik vopros: Esli hudoznik utverzdaet, chto on ne mozet ne pisat, i vsia zizn 'u nego v etom, pochemu on schitaet, chto kto-to za eto dolzen platit'?
Pisal by sebe i horosho, pochemu na rynok rvat'sia nado?

AlexanderG, why do you think that on schitaet, chto kto-to za eto dolzen platit '? The artist believes that his work for someone can and pay, if wants. Inspiration, obviously, is not for sale, but you can sell a manuscript .-
Not all artists exploding on the market. Especially in Russia. Since bursting nowhere. Neto is the market, even bazaar there. That will - we'll see.
Correctly said Marta, "that" any gallery owner prefers a predictable, reliable, possibly driven and certainly - a perfectly normal artist. " If the artist will be in all of this talent, it's great, but, in principle, can safely do without it, that always happens.
Flexible and healthy far advanced talented and patient.

[Posav]

Сообщение от Marta

And I just thought (???) Forum that "any gallery owner prefers a predictable,

 Here in this lies a paradox: on the one hand - all of the above is not very typical of the living creation,

As life turns out that the gallery owner is a shopkeeper. Why did he risk? But the philanthropist and collector ...

[Mihail]

Сообщение от DSF

AlexanderG, why do you think that on schitaet, chto kto-to za eto dolzen platit '? The artist believes that his work for someone can and pay, if wants. Inspiration, obviously, is not for sale, but you can sell a manuscript .-
Not all artists exploding on the market. Especially in Russia. Since bursting nowhere. Neto is the market, even bazaar there. That will - we'll see.
Correctly said Marta, "that" any gallery owner prefers a predictable, reliable, possibly driven and certainly - a perfectly normal artist. " If the artist will be in all of this talent, it's great, but, in principle, can safely do without it, that always happens.
Flexible and healthy far advanced talented and patient.

The first paragraph agrees, while the latter turns out that if the talent is not healthy, but predictable is not easy to get along - but somehow everything is hopeless ...