Продам: Selling now Oleg Tselkov

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

But I think you are experiencing something similar to that experienced Salieri to Mozart

Exactly: ranzher-Salieri, Tjutchev-Mozart ...

What depth!
What courage and what harmony!
You, Mozart, God, and himself did not know;
I know I am. (c)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Specifically: ranzher-Salieri, Tjutchev-Mozart ...

Well, this is too much ... But, I will not hide, it is nice. Thank you ...

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

But I will not hide, it is nice.

Mozart on an old violin playing,
Mozart plays violin and sings.
Mozart does not choose the fatherland --
just playing all his life long.

Oh, nothing, which is always known,
Our fate - it idling, then the firing ...
Do not leave your effort, maestro,
not to remove his hand from his forehead. (c)

[Konstantin]

At this point you can stay about Mozart, in order not to forget about Topeka. Otherwise will have to remove.

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Сообщение от ranzher

Similarities owned Zaborova now easily explained by one of the options. That is why whoever did this picture, did not write it, one by one overhead projector, and comply with the size smaller.

Increase or decrease the picture without changing the composition is called a "copy". Therefore, your initial assumptions are wrong.
And then, if you think Tsalkova "vydayuschmsya Russian artist of the last quarter of the 20 th century, how strange to read your same post that he could make a small replica of their work. Usually this is not peculiar to "an outstanding artist.

copy - is a work of art, repeating the other works and performances by the author himself or by another artist. A copy may differ from the original in technique and size, but, in contrast to the replica, should accurately reproduce the style and composition of the original.

Replica (as opposed to copies) - the author's repetition of the artistic work, which may differ from the original size or specific details of the image. Usually artists do replicas of paintings that are popular. For example, Savrasov made several replicas of his painting "The Rooks Have Arrived". After the portrait of Tolstoy the artist Nesterov made his remark at the request of the author's Tretyakov, who purchased the painting for his gallery.

Сообщение от ranzher

and the right collector FAIv that the handwriting of the signature on the back similar to the handwriting O. Tsalkova.

Сообщение от ranzher

proceed to the signature. It is made, it seems, but the writing did not realize that Tselkov never wrote a technique, that is, in this case, oil on canvas, but only the size, as in the example.

No, I do not see the resemblance! It is clear that the inscription on the back falshaka tried to do handwriting like the style Tselkov, but the attempt failed! Inscription has turned uncertain with obvious signs of diligent effort. ranzher, notice carefully and you will understand what I mean.

And once again I want to reiterate that the signature is a minor feature of the proof of the authenticity of work. As well as canvases, stretchers, size, cloves, etc.. In my practice, for example, there are cases where the false signatures were on the original works. The main thing - it is painting or drawing that is very image.


I hope you will not mind if I cite as an illustration of your photo autograph Tsalkova:

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

copy may be different from the original in technique and size, but, in contrast to the replica, should accurately reproduce the style and composition of the original.

No, if you change the size, not a copy, my opinion.

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Replica (as opposed to copies) - the author's repetition of the work of art, which may differ from the original size

or individual parts of the image.

That's it.
Do not copy, but the replica. Priuslovii that the disputed painting done rubles, of course.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

No, if you change the size, not a copy, my opinion.

That's it.
Do not copy, but the replica. Provided that the disputed painting done rubles, of course.

The main track if the track changed, it is a replica. If not changed, then copy.

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Сообщение от Konstantin

The song is excellent, Okudzhava, of course I do, but I tidy up the topic of feedback on your distraction. Let's not sidetrack the discussion. You are now with Ranzherom pikiruetes on who will gather more evidence that this is not Tselkov, and conversation in the stage waiting for a response from the rubles. Can wait? We need one of these days we get a response.

I am not "diving" with ranzherom «on who will gather more evidence"! That is just the case that the main evidence - that the image itself (falshak). "Durilka" speaks for itself. All that wrote ranzher «sucked from the finger" to represent me in bad light. It is funny ...

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Сообщение от ranzher

But, nevertheless, the pictures carry several formal features, which allow us to definitively say that this is a fake.
But the thing is that the "professional" Tjutchev not say no! In his "analysis" we have not seen any « of the » or «thought».

ranzher, it makes no sense to speak of "formal signs", if and so obvious that it FALSHAK. Why should "spread ideas on the tree", if the very first, the main sign of forgery is obvious! Minor signs of that just and include base, nails, paint, frame, etc., etc., are considered only when the image itself claims to authenticity, but there are some doubts.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

I hope you will not mind if I cite as an illustration of your photo autograph Tsalkova:

With creativity Tsalkova not know, but follow with interest the discussion.
 My opinion - autographs are owned by different people.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Mozart on an old violin playing,
Mozart plays violin and sings.
Mozart does not choose the fatherland --
just playing all his life long.

Oh, nothing, which is always known,
Our fate - it idling, then the firing ...
Do not leave your effort, maestro,
not to remove his hand from his forehead. (c)

Сообщение от Konstantin

In this place you can stay about Mozart, in order not to forget about Topeka. Otherwise will have to remove.

Constantine, let me take this opportunity to hang a video of the song. Song is pretty even. If you do not like it, will remove. Thanks ...


 

[Konstantin]

The song is excellent, Okudzhava, of course I do, but I tidy up the topic of feedback on your distraction. Let's not sidetrack the discussion. You are now with Ranzherom pikiruetes on who will gather more evidence that this is not Tselkov, and conversation in the stage waiting for a response from the rubles. Can wait? We need one of these days we get an answer.