New generation of collectors

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

kak naschiot kollektsionerov?
Idei, mysli?

I found the forum the article from LCR "Greetings from the French Senate" (great thanks to her), is to translate the analysis of the modern art market, there are considerations for your theme. With reference to the fact that the very type of collectors has changed. Gather not to join themselves to the common culture, not the private passions, not available for inspection for a fairly wide range of people, as it was in the golden age of collecting ... But now other purposes, trade, prestige, preservation funds. And the type of collector has changed, now it deals with a lot of people are not familiar with the topic and why now is not a collection of expressing an idea, but very often just a collection of unrelated things. I think that eventually this situation will change slightly in the direction of the old value, because will be a new layer of wealthy and highly educated people with queries. They will buy only what will please any person interested in them. And then all that will be made not for the needs of the day will be in demand.

[Вивьен]

Сообщение от K-Maler

because will be a new layer of wealthy and highly educated people with queries

The question is, who or what will facilitate the emergence of this new layer is very educated and wealthy?

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Vivien

The question is, who or what will facilitate the emergence of this new layer is very educated and wealthy?

Stratum (and oooooochen slim) ...

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

overseas system of elite education

Do you believe in this system of education?
You, like me, you live for "hill" and see how quickly "poured water", save their denyushki, local elite capitalists.
In this elite education, the concept of morality, is completely absent. Capitalism in the era of imperialism is called.
They are little to do with art. IMHO.

for Nata
"to pour water"=a saying came from the middle of the 20 th century, when the car was in the radiator water and antifreeze to (coolant which does not freeze).
If engine failure in the winter and the inability to quickly repair or at the end of the working day, from the radiator and cooling system motor poured water.
This saved the engine and radiator to defrost.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

If engine failure in the winter and the inability to quickly repair a radiator and cooling system motor poured water.
This saved the engine and radiator to defrost.

But how then could easily start motor at temperatures up to -30 C, the Strait of its goryachenkoy water from the teapot! Clutched a half-turn.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

Quote:
Note from NATA NOVA
Overseas system of elite education

Do you believe in this system of education

We had vszyat in quotation marks. I do not believe (as in education). I meant by "elitism" in the desire that whatever the cost gryazeknyazevyh dengiimuschih give their children an educational environment, the appropriate status, so to in the post-Soviet prostransve it has not yet been formed (just missing background)

[ABC]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

They are little to do with art. IHMO.

2 times you noticed typo. IMHO, not IHMO. in my humble opinion

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

In this elite education, the concept of morality, is completely absent.

Yes, but perhaps, for example, in Germany there are no private religious schools, Lutheran, Catholic?
There's something moral in the first place do something.
And when the German students are transported to Auschwitz or Sachsenhausen. also on the morale of Spades.
Or am I mistaken?

[LCR]

Recently read about the trial of the German bank manager, "redistributed" the means of its customers - took from the accounts of the richest, to help those who are mired in debt, after taking with them the promise that they would return the money. For many years his "Robin gudstva" she personally did not take a penny
This case is not isolated.

But to return to the subject of interest to us, the work of artists such as Anselm Kiefer and Georg Baselitz, born during the war or immediately after its completion, thoroughly permeated with a sense of guilt. Another example - Joseph Beuys, who participated in the war. His plane was shot down over Russia, and rescued the inhabitants of the Tatar village - at least, such is his vresiya, and even if there are doubts as to its perfect authenticity, it is very revealing: this episode was a key in his creativity.
There is evidence that questions of morality are not entirely disappeared from the sight of the western and, in particular, as can be, especially the German people.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, but perhaps, for example, in Germany there are no private religious schools, Lutheran, Catholic?

There are not enough, I think at least 15-20%of all schools. But they usually are not private, public, but under the leadership of a religious community.
The problem is, capitalism in the form in which it is, for example, in Germany, "threw" morality overboard.
Young people after such schools, with emphasis on the humanity and morality are two possibilities. Or go to the humanitarian areas and tend to live for the soul but not for (for) money (and). Or the morality of the "board" and directly or indirectly in the business ...
Unfortunately, capitalism in times of crisis is not socialism. Morality and spirituality can not eat.
A combination of these things is possible only as an exception proves the rule.
Lack of human morality is a slow but steady path to fascism. IMHO.

This is my own, personal vision of the processes in Germany, but there are exceptions.
 From the side seen on the other, with TV screens, information sites. (propaganda though)
As an example.
On the TV is a film about Wolf Messing. The episode, Vienna, playing at the casino, the roulette wheel, thanks to an eccentric Messing wins a lot of money.
Offbeat all in shock, to rake up his chips and scatter them partially under the table.
Others with "Russian" courtesy helps him to collect the chips and congratulate the kindly smile.
My wife and I looked at each other and laughed.
Scene defeated on the basis of Russian mentality.
Envy, insanely jealous, so characteristic of the local mentality.
Local would not smile and flirted ........ These little things often. And they should not be confused with the German cleanliness.