On the correctness of the list of "12 most expensive Russian artists"

[LCR]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

RSFSR recognized the independence of SSRB 31/01/1919.

Madam, I have a history education.



Read the developing literature, probably.

Please do, ask the dates of birth Soutine and his arrival in France, and you will see that neither of the RSFSR, nor to the SSRB he have nothing to do but could not.
Everything on my side a dialogue is finished - I do not like your tone.

P.S. And take a hundred drops of valerian

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, confirmed.
But worse, when a person is not "squeezed" a slave of himself. And there are those that do not want to "squeeze out" and before his death remain slaves of dogma, ideological cliches bygone era, nostalgic bias and conformism.
Ah, I recall the words of Chekhov-ka from a letter Suvorin (January 7, 1889):
What writers nobles took the gift from nature, then raznochintsi bought at the cost of youth. Write a story about how a young man, the son of a serf, a former shopkeeper, a schoolboy and student, brought up in rank, to kiss the priest's hands, the worship of strange thoughts ... squeezes out a drop by drop a slave and how he woke up one morning, feels that in his veins is no longer a slave blood, but a real human.

Instead rhyme ...

This is tragic! Squeeze the slave meant a rejection of blind obedience to the king, in general the beginning of the active resistance of the bloody royal rotten criminal clique. Is not surprising if in the public schools already in Class 3 were Bolshevik circles.

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Сообщение от LCR

please do, inquire about the dates of birth Soutine and his arrival in France, and you will see that neither of the RSFSR, nor to the SSRB he have nothing to do but could not.
Everything on my side a dialogue is finished - I do not like your tone.

P.S. And take a hundred drops of valerian

Correct!
Soutine just considered himself a Russian and all. No need to tie today's folly to historical figures.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от LCR

What matter? What Soutine was born, lived and died before the formation of the State of Belarus?

RSFSR recognized the independence of SSRB 31/01/1919.

Сообщение от LCR

please do, inquire about the dates of birth Soutine and his arrival in France, and you will see that neither of the RSFSR, nor to the SSRB he is no relation could not have.

LCR,

what did you change your testimony? already lived not important? If that does not like, you can also engage with its concepts ...

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For all the others.

I'm not particularly worried that Soutine, Chagall, etc. The Russians call the Russian artists. To do this, there are reasons. But no one will prevent me and others to call the add-Belarusian Belarusian artists. Because of this there are no less important reason. Denial and one, and another promise - just stupid.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

RSFSR recognized the independence of SSRB 31/01/1919.



LCR,

what did you change your testimony? already lived not important? If that does not like, you can also engage with its concepts ...

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For all the others.

I'm not particularly worried that Soutine, Chagall, etc. The Russians call the Russian artists. To do this, there are reasons. But no one will prevent me and others to call the add-Belarusian Belarusian artists. Because of this there are no less important reason. Denial and one, and another promise - just stupid.

Soutine left Russia. Belarus and Ukraine as part of Russia. In fact, Soutine was Jewish by nationality and come from a part of Russia, which called Canada, but now the opposition in Belarus is not even Belarus, as something closer to the Poles, who in ancient times, the White Russians as people do not consider. But this is the word.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Pavel

Correct!
Soutine just considered himself a Russian and all. No need to tie today's folly to historical figures.

Paul

I have no idea who considered himself Soutine. I do not think he spent much time reflections on their nationality, he was more than enough other problems more pressing. On my part it was not just a joke - Soutine really a kind of "come from Smilavichy." But this man was born and lived on the territory of Russia empire. In the end he had left, and long before the State of Belarus has appeared on the political map of the world - no matter whether the account is from 1918, 1945 or 1991 (different versions cited, but as a confirmed fact I'm saying).
In international law there can not be retroactive , and people with historical education, and without him, usually know it.

[Сергеич]

Read all of this is interesting, but I have a question: What is the purpose of discussion?
 Options:
- We want to find out who is really from what country?
- We want to Artinvestment.ru rewrote tops?
Good questions?
Someone says, and believes that Kandinsky German what? We must throw it from the top is? This is serious?

[observer]

Funny. If Tamara de Lempitska Russian, then why Lempitska and why de?
If the Russian, then you should simply write Lempitskaya as her countrywoman Curie, subsequently Sklodowska-Curie.
These spacecraft with de as a donkey's ears.

[LCR]

Сообщение от observer

It's funny. If Tamara de Lempitska Russian, then why Lempitska and why de?
If the Russian, then you should simply write Lempitskaya as her countrywoman Curie, subsequently Sklodowska-Curie.
These spacecraft with de as a donkey's ears.

The fact that de Lempicka it to her husband, a Polish lawyer (Tadeusz de Lempicka).
Her father was Boris Gorsky, a Russian Jew, mother - Polka (do not know her name).
So the Polish form, in general, is understandable.

As for the prefix "de", the first emigration, which, following the move to Western Europe was important to make clear its aristocratic membership for all, teeming with all sorts of Ivanov, de, de de Petrov and Sidorov
A serious example - a well-known musicologist, scholar of Bach Boris de Shlotser (Boris de Schloezer).

[observer]

The conversation is on the list of Russian names. No one in Russia, even, perhaps, on this site does not mention Pozhedaeva Georges de Pozhedaeff.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от LCR

Paul,

I have no idea who considered himself Soutine. I do not think he spent much time reflections on their nationality, he was more than enough other problems more pressing. On my part it was not just a joke - Soutine really a kind of "come from Smilavichy." But this man was born and lived on the territory of Russia empire. In the end he had left, and long before the State of Belarus has appeared on the political map of the world - no matter whether the account is from 1918, 1945 or 1991 (different versions cited, but as a confirmed fact I'm saying).
In international law there can not be retroactive , and people with historical education, and without him, this is usually known.

This written Falk. He was at Soutine in Paris.