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OlegTsi · 15-11-2009, 16:05

I will try to flip through their books and put the post of what happened (in connection with fraud) prior to the sale of Russian Art at Christie's in the summer of 2007. A lot of people about this and have not heard ...

Кирилл Сызранский · 15-11-2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by OlegTsi

A lot of people about this and have not heard ...

Ah, interesting-how, come on!

Евгений · 15-11-2009, 16:22

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Originally Posted by OlegTsi

A lot of people about this and have not heard ...

Interestingly, write, honored ..

OlegTsi · 15-11-2009, 17:38

Well, found.

Before the summer Christie's auction in New York (18 April 2007), where a month before, subscribers receive their catalogs. Of course, after dushezahvatyvayuschey paintings VV Vereshchagin's Solomon's Wall, the bet was made by Christie's on another lot in value - Job Lyubov Popova - Birsky Landscape (Birsk Landscape) Lot 108. Its preliminary estimate was 700-900 thousand dollars. USA.
As the provenance was submitted to a number of owners in the past, well, in a word, everything right.

In a very short period of time correction subscribers catalogs MacDougall's auction catalogs are planned for June 15, 2007. After viewing immediately rushed into the eyes of lot 48 - Lyubov Popova, Birsky landscape. Score 500-700 thousand Br. Pounds. Open both directories began to compare - the same provenance, history and description.
It was immediately clear where the forgery.

There is a lot of questions, not unleashed until today - whether the owners simultaneously. are stupid, willing to break the double revenues in two different places, whether there was a fateful coincidence.
Christie has not had time to put this work in the public view, it immediately returned to the seller, although the directory was already too late ...

Comparing the two works in the catalog may have noticed the difference smears, the more that work at Christie looked quite fresh. But this is not doglyadeli "experienced" specialists Russian departmenta. As a result - in London on MakDugalse job was successfully sold, and at Christie's - in a short time, were dismissed Russian-speaking director of the department and assistant ...

I think that the more material mixtures of fakes, we will give, the more will benefit not only for the simple collector. Someone is counterfeiting cost the career ...

If interested, describe what happened at MakDugalls at the beginning of their activities.

Кирилл Сызранский · 15-11-2009, 17:58

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work at Christie looked quite fresh.

And the signature is. Just the size of the horizontal difference ...

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If interested, describe what happened on MakDugalls at the beginning of their careers.

Oh, and let it. : D

Konstantin · 15-11-2009, 18:17

It is very necessary and important.
That is the power of the forum. Are waiting.

OlegTsi · 15-11-2009, 18:19

By the way, on both auctions were a certificate of authenticity, issued by prof. Dmitry Sarabyanovym ...
More questions than answers.

fross · 15-11-2009, 19:53

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If interested, describe what happened at MakDugalls at the beginning of their activities.

You mean the work of Larionov allegedly Azerbaijan Museum in 2005?
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1267679

Кирилл Сызранский · 15-11-2009, 20:42

fross, here the story mentioned.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...B0%D0%BD%D0%B5
By the way, now read the topic and discuss their year-ago ooooochen interesting, well, oooochn .....
: D: D: D

олег назаров · 15-11-2009, 20:53

on MakDugalls year ago byly sold work Novikova "island" - one hundred per cent fake ... seen in the hands of spit ... not long before bidding it to me suggested ... there is in the base site who are interested can see ..

15-11-2009, 17:38	Original language: Russian #14
OlegTsi Guest Posts: n/a	Well, found. Before the summer Christie's auction in New York (18 April 2007), where a month before, subscribers receive their catalogs. Of course, after dushezahvatyvayuschey paintings VV Vereshchagin's Solomon's Wall, the bet was made by Christie's on another lot in value - Job Lyubov Popova - Birsky Landscape (Birsk Landscape) Lot 108. Its preliminary estimate was 700-900 thousand dollars. USA. As the provenance was submitted to a number of owners in the past, well, in a word, everything right. In a very short period of time correction subscribers catalogs MacDougall's auction catalogs are planned for June 15, 2007. After viewing immediately rushed into the eyes of lot 48 - Lyubov Popova, Birsky landscape. Score 500-700 thousand Br. Pounds. Open both directories began to compare - the same provenance, history and description. It was immediately clear where the forgery. There is a lot of questions, not unleashed until today - whether the owners simultaneously. are stupid, willing to break the double revenues in two different places, whether there was a fateful coincidence. Christie has not had time to put this work in the public view, it immediately returned to the seller, although the directory was already too late ... Comparing the two works in the catalog may have noticed the difference smears, the more that work at Christie looked quite fresh. But this is not doglyadeli "experienced" specialists Russian departmenta. As a result - in London on MakDugalse job was successfully sold, and at Christie's - in a short time, were dismissed Russian-speaking director of the department and assistant ... I think that the more material mixtures of fakes, we will give, the more will benefit not only for the simple collector. Someone is counterfeiting cost the career ... If interested, describe what happened at MakDugalls at the beginning of their activities. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by OlegTsi; 15-11-2009 at 18:35.

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