How to unleash the artist

[iosif]

dedulya37,
I have not once encountered such. That's right.
But I think that this is not very correct behavior of the artist. He has such a profession - to create masterpieces that sell them. If it is, of course, part-time customs officer did not (Rousseau). Or a stockbroker (Gauguin).
In short, if it is a profession, not a hobby - it is necessary to write and sell. And so that does not erase the memory of creativity - is now seamlessly take pictures and even make copies, both on paper and on canvas. Similarities, especially in the case of on-wet watercolor, is such that I was forced to sign the word "copy" to avoid confusion
With work, for the artist's emblematic, for example, we are doing so: we sell, but with the obligation to provide for individual exhibitions. Also the normal version.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iosif

With work, for the artist's emblematic, for example, we are doing so: we sell, but with the obligation to provide for individual exhibitions. Also the normal version.

Yes, very easy and convenient.

[Самвел]

To Samvel:

Cto dlia vas opredeliaet horoshego hudoznika?
                                                                                                                                                                                For me, if you are interested, the artist is one who does not know how not to write, despite the war, the difficulties of unsettled, etc. Poet one who just talks, but he turns out music. It always amazes me when someone spins the artist, and asked for a reparation. I understand that the majority disagrees with me. But I think that the one who spins, also gets a certain pleasure from this process. Well, let him receive reparation, but often, they want to get more than the artist himself at times.

[AlexanderG]

o Samvel:
The worst thing to want to be better than you really are.

Chto takogo uzasnogo v samosovershenstvovanii?
Esli professional (hudoznik v ton chisle) ne hochet byt 'luchshe, dostich' chego-to novogo, ne sovershenstvuet svoiu tehniku, ne vyrabatyvaet novye metody - to on ostanavlivaetsia v razvitii i so vremenem perestaiot byt 'horoshim spetsialistom.

Professiia hudoznika ni chem ne otlichaetsia ot liubogo drugogo professionala.

Muchaiuschiisia hudoznik eto mif, nikto nikogo s pisoletom k golove ne zastavliaet byt 'hudoznikom. Eto vybor, im nado naslazdat'sia, kak iv liuboi drugoi spetsial'nosti.

Raskrutka - eto obyknovennyi marketing. Rabota eto interesnaia i vysokooplachevaemaia.
Kstati, proizvoditeli Nike poluchaiut 0,3%ot prodaznoi tseny, gorazdo skromnee po sravneniiu s 30 -50%hudozestvennyh gonorarov.

Napisat 'kartinu, eto kak rodit' rebionka, prosto rodit 'nedostatocho, nado vyrastit', vyholit ', vyuchit', i to resul'tat ne vsegda horoshii.

Prodolzim debat?


Kstati, zisn 'v Avstralii ochen' rasslablennaiia, gorazdo spokoinee chem v Moskve ili N'iu Yorke.
Oskala kapitalisma pochti ne vidno. Narod rasslablennyi, ne suetitsia.

To Dedulia: minuia dillera, za dorogo ne poluchitsia. Daze Hirst nachal samostoiatel'no posle raskrutki.
Kstati eto odna is problemm raboty na pervichnom rynke: kak gallerist delaet mnogoe dlia hudoznika; vystavki, publikatsii, predstavleniia, pristraivaet v kollektsii, i eto vsio ostaiotsia s hudoznikom navsegda. Esli hudoznik reshit pomeniat 'gallereiu, to vsie eti usiliia dlia gallerista - naprasnyi trud, kak by porabotal na blagosostoianie drugoi gallerei.

Kstati, lichno ia za bolee chem 15 let raboty v chetyreh stranah ni rasu ne podpisal ni odnogo kontrakta s hudoznikami. Vsegda na slove. Proboi byli, no nemnogo.

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To Dedulia - a moi hudozniki is masterskih nichego ne prodaiut, a esli takoe sluchaetsia, to s moego soglasiia, i moi protsent vsio ravno zanosiat.

Chasto prodazami is masterskih, hudozniki vrediat samim sebe.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

To Dedulia: minuia dillera, za dorogo ne poluchitsia. Daze Hirst nachal samostoiatel'no posle raskrutki.
Kstati eto odna is problemm raboty na pervichnom rynke: kak gallerist delaet mnogoe dlia hudoznika; vystavki, publikatsii, predstavleniia, pristraivaet v kollektsii, i eto vsio ostaiotsia s hudoznikom navsegda. Esli hudoznik reshit pomeniat 'gallereiu, to vsie eti usiliia dlia gallerista - naprasnyi trud, kak by porabotal na blagosostoianie drugoi gallerei.

Kstati, lichno ia za bolee chem 15 let raboty v chetyreh stranah ni rasu ne podpisal ni odnogo kontrakta s hudoznikami. Vsegda na slove. Proboi byli, no nemnogo.

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To Dedulia - a moi hudozniki is masterskih nichego ne prodaiut, a esli takoe sluchaetsia, to s moego soglasiia, i moi protsent vsio ravno zanosiat.

Chasto prodazami is masterskih, hudozniki vrediat samim sebe

Absolutely agree with you. All that you have described here about the actions of a dealer or gallery owner, in our country has made the state, provided that you have /had been a professional artist, that is, as you said,
  living on the fruits of their work. Only one catch was: the exhibition were educational, not commercial. And many very famous artists solo exhibitions were usually the exception. And only after a careful selection of works from several (dozen) exhibitions, the artist could not decide on the personal. But by the time he himself knew that he was from is.
Previously, even the concept was not "exhibition and sale.
As soon as the curtain fell, and all went: dealers, promoters, managers, curators, etc. I do not blame all this, so life is.
The only regret that disappeared from professional artists. Ridiculous, perhaps, Hurst asked to draw even a plaster head, painted by art school students in 5-6 grade. Poor? : confused:

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Kstati, zisn 'v Avstralii ochen' rasslablennaiia, gorazdo spokoinee chem v Moskve ili N'iu Yorke.
Oskala kapitalisma pochti ne vidno. Narod rasslablennyi, ne suetitsia.

"Sema Brook overtook me on the whole circle
And they say Sema Brook - our Guinean friend
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He looked to me like he will run at minus thirty "(VS Vysotsky)

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от dedulya37

Funny, perhaps, Hurst asked to draw at least a plaster head, painted by art school students in 5-6 grade. Poor?

Why? As a "test Dali, the artist should be able to draw a horse? I'm here, for example, LinkBacks sincerely, if Hirst knows how to draw a horse. Although almost sure can. And not be able - to buy the carcass and deceiving marker I'm here, for example, recently tried to handle the statement write (by hand) - tortured, unlearned. That's not to say that I do not know how to write?

[Самвел]

AlexanderG read your letter, and decided to answer it. All of your arguments, again, the same swirling around the bush-profit \ promotion, interest, marketing.i.t.d. Occupation artist is fundamentally different from other professions, are completely different understanding about life and death. You are comparing a seller of professional ygurtami with the artist, this is a purely Western idea of the world. Here naprimer.Bush went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and wants to explain to them that \ If your wife went to the left, it's democracy, she is has the full right \, Western man will never understand that avganets does not want villas no supermarkets, no magdonaldsov, no Cadillac, he wants to catch fish in their river, and listen to the birds. account the fact that there you have all measured, and quietly, without fuss etc., I am more than confident that there is nothing more or less meaningful it will not happen, there can be talk about the past because the future is not there. In any case, even though I say that I'm sure I'm sure the same somnevayus.prosto we are talking nothing personal. Ask yourself why in the days of the USSR-flourishing culture, and examples of mass. Whether it's theater, cinema, zhivopis.i.t.d Why is there such artists as Filonov, Bakst, why not by producer as Paradjanov, or Tarkovsky, theatergoers as Stanislavsky, Meerhold, poets like Mandelstam and Brodsky. Wash Brodsky said .. \ Empire gave rise to culture and democracy paper. There were cultural people, but people of culture no longer exists.

[LCR]

Сообщение от Samvel

at the expense of what you have there all measured, and quietly, without fuss etc., I am more than confident that nothing more or less meaningful it does not happen, there can speak the past, because the future is not there. In any case, even though I say that I'm sure I'm sure the same somnevayus.prosto we are talking nothing personal. Ask yourself why in the days of the USSR-flourishing culture, and examples of mass. Whether it's theater, cinema, zhivopis.i.t.d Why is there such artists as Filonov, Bakst, why not by producer as Paradjanov, or Tarkovsky, theatergoers as Stanislavsky, Meerhold, poets like Mandelstam and Brodsky. Wash Brodsky said .. \ Empire gave rise to culture and democracy paper. There were cultural people, but people of culture are no more.

I can not agree with what you say. How much of one or M. Brodsky was abominable, the untalented waste paper, on one or Falk Shterenberg - tons of hideous scribble on one of Prokofiev and Shostakovich - millions Dunaevskii and Khrennikov?

The fact that democracy can not produce art - also, in my opinion, true.
Can you talk about Paradzhanov and Tarkovsky, but did not mention Visconti, Antonioni, Fellini, Truffaut and Godard (I do not like movies, but even I can see that it works now, a very high level).

Bakst - which, incidentally, to the Soviet Union had absolutely nothing to do - a wonderful artist, but Hopper, from my point of view, much more significant. Georgia O'Keefe also spent her life in his native America. I can not even speak of abstract expressionism, etc.

And in Europe, too, can not say that was a complete void. It is European art defined artistic image of the twentieth century, especially 1-st half of it: Chirico, Matisse, Bonnard, Rouault, de Stael, Marc, Dubuffet, Morandi (I only mention your favorite, or should be called and Picasso, and Dali, and Leger), Bacon, in the end, Hockney - but you in one sentence all that crosses?
Aphorism Brodsky, and indeed all the aphorisms (besides, of course, that I have just led to another story) beautiful and funny, but essentially wrong - like any simplification.

But no hard feelings, eh? : p

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Samvel

Occupation artist is fundamentally different from other professions, are completely different understanding about life and death.

Profession artist is not much different from other artists.

Сообщение от Samvel

why in the days of the USSR-flourishing culture,

In Soviet times, flourished "gulag" and in culture and in life generally, you will not forget.

[Самвел]

LCR. Where did you get that I'm hurt, you thought that you spoke so that I will lift up your hands? Yes you are right just for me instead of Falk, turned Bakst, it happens. I had the current situation, rather than what it was 30 40 years ago. West is also changed. If you are not embarrassed that Philip Kirkorov folk artist, ie the artist of Russia, and Ramzan Kadyrov the Hero of Russia, well, what have continued in this the same spirit.