A good artist - a successful artist?

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Сообщение от Terehov

By the way, my avatar too-real place on the island - Bishop's Castle 14 th century.

And by the landscape-you?

[Людмила Иларт]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ogromnoe spasibo za etot otvet. Imenno k etomu vyvodu ia prishiol delaia issledovanie po art rynku. Kak ia uze gde-to pisal, mirovoi art rynok eto ochen 'molodaia organizatsiia. Kogda nechego o tovare skazat ', sozdaiutsia legendy.

Daze istoriia iskusstv byla sozdana i podognana pod rynok.
Eschio raz spasibo.

By your leaves, that without the market and art will not be. And it all happens begins with that cute boy or girl write me a picture for the soul, then there is his uncle - dealer or just a nerd - anything and it offers to sell. After this the adjustment under this same market, well, the picture is no longer in fashion, performances will make or installation. The boy had looked with contempt on the paint - it would be more expensive camera. In general, if and paint, the more sinister plot. So he becomes successful.

[AlexanderG]

By your leaves, that without the market and art will not be.

Etogo ia nikogda ne govoril.

Iskusstvo suschestvuet namnogo dol'she art rynka, o kotorom my seichas govorim. Investitsii v iskusstvo ran'she ne suschestvovalo. Eto vsio Sotheby's bisness ideia, i oni ee uspeshno protalkivaiut. Mnogie na eto pokupaiutsia.

S drugoi storony potrebitel 'iskusstva dolzen byt', bes nego suschestvovanie professional'nogo hudoznika nevozmozno.

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Seriy

Repin and other Bryullov

  "Repin and other Bryullov" as not quite respectfully voiced You are the treasury of Russian culture ......

Сообщение от Seriy

Please call the genius of the artist, financially unsuccessful in life.

Enough to read about the life of Renoir, Monet and many others, to understand that their life was not quite financially successful (at least most of it) ... But what are the results. And the success of an artist we are talking, sometimes down, considering all the positions with only material goods (which has ruined more than one talent). These same goals and aspirations were much higher. And choosing between eating and buying paint, they invariably chose the second ...

[NATA NOVA]

Semen Semenovich, Sorry, you can tell from the information that: "Their life was is not quite financially successful"?
Maybe we mean different? What do you mean?
It seems, except slogger Pissarro (who had a garden that the family did not die of starvation), were all very nice even arranged .. (And in general all possible Renoir naturist gadgets were or what I then mixed up?)

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

And Renoir general all possible naturist gadgets were or that I have something mixed up?)

"In my opinion, a Renoir, things went smoothly. So much the better. Poverty - a cruel thing." - Wrote Pissarro May 27, 1879. And it happened after the Salon at the Palace of Industry. This was the first salon where Renoir achieved resounding success. He was 38 ... And before that sposhnaya need ...
"I have until noon to get forty francs, and I have only three ..."- Renoir wrote in 1874. "Things are getting worse and worse. On the day before yesterday I do not have a penny in my pocket, and neither the butcher, the baker or more in debt does not let go. Though I believe in the future, but as you can see, this rather depressing ... They could not would you send me by return of post dvadtsatifrankovy ticket? "- wrote Monet Edouard Manet in the summer of 1874 ...

[Seriy]

Semen Semenovich, yes, included. I am a young man believed to prominent artists, but now my enthusiasm greatly understated - with such tools, with such skill they produced a "market" products - Bryullov served lovers salon, academic, and Repin - the Populists, "advanced" intellectuals, which led to literary and illustrative, T e in the global context hudozhestvennostnom-to konyukturnosti. The forum published analysis of paintings by Repin, on the charter of 1905, horror, death of the artist.
Wander in the Russian Museum between his schoolgirl in black and all sorts of figures and think, Is that all? and at least some artistic task Ilya Efimovich a set? Contemporary Impressionist and Picasso, all passed by, populism burned in the fire of the first Russian revolution, ceased to be relevant and Repin.

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Сообщение от Seriy

... served ... Repin - the Populists, "advanced" intellectuals, which led to the literary and illustrative, T e in a global context hudozhestvennostnom-to konyukturnosti.

He managed to maintain and high society and royal family.

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Сообщение от Seriy

Bryullov served lovers salon, academic, and Repin - the Populists, "advanced" intellectuals,

You and up to "our all" agree, yes Aivazovsky and hierarchy!
Before Shishkina!

- Listen, Zin, do not touch brother:
What to eat, and he - native ... (c)

: D: D: D

[Seriy]

Repin - the mountain! just a shame that an artist of such great talent to trade off on coppers, in an artistic sense. Well .. it happened ..

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Seriy

and Picasso,

Yes, nonsense, the difference is only 37 years ...

Сообщение от Seriy

wandering about in the Russian Museum between his schoolgirl in black and all sorts of figures and think-

In the Russian Museum to enjoy and wander through the deserted streets of the better ...

Сообщение от Seriy

And that's all! and at least some artistic task Ilya Efimovich a set?

Yes, just something. Great Gold Medal of the Academy of Fine Arts ,6-year internship in Italy and France. "Boatmen ..."," on turf bench," "Procession ..."," The Unexpected "... a series of stunning portraits ... And all this without artistic problems.