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Старый 24.09.2008, 13:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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virtually unknown in our country.
Otkel them to be in here?
In Russia, another spiritual, is unlikely to take root on our Earth ...
And thank you for enlightenment.



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Otkel them to be in here?
In Russia, another spiritual, is unlikely to take root on our Earth ...
And thank you for enlightenment.
This movement, actually, it began to Russian in the early 20 th century. Tchelitchew, Kalmakov, Roerich experimenting with meditative and contemplative practices and that they are so influenced by the West with its subsequent New Age, psychedelics, etc. ... This is recognized in an interview with Alex Gray - one of the leading artists of this trend in the United States.

"The Russian painter Pavel Tchelitchew was one of the great visionary artists of the twentieth century (his obsession with anatomy and mysticism relates to my own work). Tchelitchew's paintings evolved through metamorphic symbolism to x-ray anatomical figures glowing with inner light, and eventually progressed to luminous, abstract networks. "
http://beinart.org/info/essays/alex-...ionary-art.php

And the whole Russian line of mystical art can conduct their count from artists Hesychasts: Theophanes the Greek, Andrey Rublev, Dionysius (http://www.hesychasm.ru/library/creation/yazik.htm). They are contemplating the exalted realms, the light of Tabor, were his agents and spokesmen in the iconographic compositions. As in Russia there was the Renaissance, and in the figurative terms of Russian painters for many centuries had to deal primarily with the canonical icon, then continue the line of succession manifests itself in the art 19-20-21 Century Vrubel, Chelishchev, Kalmakova, Roerich Museum, more - Eugenia Spassky, Valery Kharitonov, Fr. Vladislav Provotorova, o.Stefana Linitskogo, o.Mihaila Potapova, "artists from Little Georgia, Oleg Korolev, Victor Safonkin, et al.

So that contemplative mystical art, Visionary art is "our everything" and in addition it is the Russian development.



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This movement, generally speaking, it began to Russian in the early 20 th century. Tchelitchew, Kalmakov, Roerich experimenting with meditative and contemplative practices and that they are so influenced by the West with its subsequent New Age, psychedelics, etc. ... This is recognized in an interview with Alex Gray - one of the leading artists of this trend in the United States.

"The Russian painter Pavel Tchelitchew was one of the great visionary artists of the twentieth century (his obsession with anatomy and mysticism relates to my own work). Tchelitchew's paintings evolved through metamorphic symbolism to x-ray anatomical figures glowing with inner light, and eventually progressed to luminous, abstract networks. "
http://beinart.org/info/essays/alex-...ionary-art.php

And the whole Russian line of mystical art can conduct their count from artists Hesychasts: Theophanes the Greek, Andrey Rublev, Dionysius (http://www.hesychasm.ru/library/creation/yazik.htm). They are contemplating the exalted realms, the light of Tabor, were his agents and spokesmen in the iconographic compositions. As in Russia there was the Renaissance, and in the figurative terms of Russian painters for many centuries had to deal primarily with the canonical icon, then continue the line of succession manifests itself in the art 19-20-21 Century Vrubel, Chelishchev, Kalmakova, Roerich Museum, more - Eugenia Spassky, Valery Kharitonov, Fr. Vladislav Provotorova, o.Stefana Linitskogo, o.Mihaila Potapova, "artists from Little Georgia, Oleg Korolev, Victor Safonkin, et al.

So that contemplative mystical art, Visionary art is "our everything" and in addition it is the Russian development.
The scope and authority of the author's identity development does not guarantee the authenticity of the follow-up of neophytes-followers, but rather the contrary. Any neofty following the spirit of direction are eager to bring something of themselves, their "individuality", in the end profaniruya what they inherited from his great predecessors. And in the West had its own tradition: Goya, Bosch, Blake, etc.



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The scope and authority of the author's identity development does not guarantee the authenticity of the follow-up of neophytes-followers, but rather the contrary. Any neofty following the spirit of direction are eager to bring something of themselves, their "individuality", in the end profaniruya what they inherited from his great predecessors. And in the West had its own tradition: Goya, Bosch, Blake, etc.
True, the West dates back to Bosch and Blake (Goya, they never mentioned, it is true, but I think his Caprichos, may well be attributed to the visionary art). As for profanity - it also depends on the individual and time ... sometimes yesterday's profanity and a mistake today denied, processed and becomes a true revelation of evolutionarily new stage of development. This is a process that never stops, as the source of all intuition is always with us (and with it the same and dizziness and enlightenment).



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source of all contemplation
Excuse me, how does that mean?

Art, visions, and religious art - lies in the different areas of the psyche and the rest of the intangible (spiritual). Mixing them in one pile - a sign of a fundamental misunderstanding of the huge difference between these phenomena, or what is worse, a deliberate substitution.
Secular art - yes (we have an earthly feelings and emotions, why not develop), the religious art - yes (the person may apply to the Creator as it sees fit), and the visions - what's this? Demons their release to the world? No thanks, do not.

I for pluralism in self-expression through creativity, but the enemy false definitions and substitution



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Demons of its release to the world? No thanks, do not.
In vain you project your phobia ... Psyche is one and the basis noumenal. Those with whom she had divided into "phenomena", is divided on the phenomena itself (which is a mental disorder).

Here is a worldwide society of artists who continue the tradition of the oldest (probably coming from the shamans of Paleolithic rock paintings). It contains both "Dark Visionary" artists - who contemplate the dark worlds, and Visionary art, exploring the religious traditions of different cultures. All is not uniform, there are different points of view, but all have in common is that there is something sacred, the beyond, the spiritual, which in various entiogennyh realities in the dream, in the afternoon and in the minds of his posthumous state.

The movement today is large enough, and generally mature enough to compete desakralizirovannym and dehumanize, anti-religious and anti-postmodern spiritual manifestations of "contemporary art".

I think that if someone is his first "open", will remain in the history of art.



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In vain you project your phobia ... Psyche is one and the basis noumenal. Those with whom she had divided into "phenomena", is divided on the phenomena itself (which is a mental disorder).

Here is a worldwide society of artists who continue the tradition of the oldest (probably coming from the shamans of Paleolithic rock paintings). It contains both "Dark Visionary" artists - who contemplate the dark worlds, and Visionary art, exploring the religious traditions of different cultures. All is not uniform, there are different points of view, but all have in common is that there is something sacred, the beyond, the spiritual, which in various entiogennyh realities in the dream, in the afternoon and in the minds of his posthumous state.

The movement today is large enough, and generally mature enough to compete desakralizirovannym and dehumanize, anti-religious and anti-postmodern spiritual manifestations of "contemporary art".

I think that if someone is his first "open", will remain in the history of art.
"contemporary art" at least do not pretend that can "compete" something, and in this sense it is more honest.

Just by the nature of the work I communicate with a large number of CMV artists: the most "pushed" - just visionaries (some, however, come to their senses). And if the Impressionists were not simply points, but saw the sun and sky, and life, then this and my eyes are not needed. In otklyuchke reside. Pull yourself together, lads. Consciousness must be developed - it determines being. And not produce hallucinations fruitless, giving them a heavenly revelation.

But let all flowers bloom But not because I am such a politically correct, just do not want anything standing crush.



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"contemporary art" at least do not pretend that can "compete" something, and in this sense it is more honest. "
Contemporary art is postmodern Officially, long suppressed everything. They have long been not "pretend", but simply unchallenged dominant, as the project is the world's dominant ideological structures.

However, the pendulum of public mind from total nihilism, they preached, naturally swings toward the spiritual quest.
There's no doubt, it is only temporary.


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In otklyuchke reside. Pull yourself together, lads. Consciousness must be developed - it determines being. And not produce hallucinations fruitless, giving them a heavenly revelation.
I do not think that Patriarch Alexy II "is in otklyuchke", visiting the exhibition Visionary artist about. Vladislav Provotorova. Pope "is in otklyuchke, making orders Ernst Fuchs and the Dalai Lama" is in otklyuchke ", making orders Bridget Marlin.

Try to be a little careful with the conclusions and generalizations. Examine first mate. part.

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But let all flowers bloom But not because I am such a politically correct, just do not want anything standing crush.
As for cost ... average.

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contemporary art is postmodern Officially, long suppressed everything. They have long been not "pretend", but simply unchallenged dominant, as the project is the world's dominant ideological structures.

However, the pendulum of public mind from total nihilism, they preached, naturally swings toward the spiritual quest.
There's no doubt, it is only temporary.
This is a personal choice each person - to be free or live in slavery, to be on one or the other side of the barricades. The pendulum swings to the right side, you can bet ...

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I do not think that Patriarch Alexy II "is in otklyuchke", visiting the exhibition Visionary artist about. Vladislav Provotorova. Pope "is in otklyuchke, making orders Ernst Fuchs and the Dalai Lama" is in otklyuchke ", making orders Bridget Marlin.
And what do you mean? Let's finish with this ... I am not a supporter of New Age, and never will be. You had a line in the text of Rublev and the Greeks to vizionari - I tried to tell you that this stretch. That's all.



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You had a line in the text of Rublev and the Greeks to vizionari - I tried to tell you that this stretch. That's all.
Rublev contemplated the "Mountain" and the inscrutable nature of consciousness, the basis inherent in all beings, regardless of time and outside space, outside the division into object and subject - one that is always with us until the end of the century, and one that, in general, very contemplates through us, we know it or not ...

Adherents of New Age in a shamanistic trance, contemplating the "archetypes" mental, "digital" worlds, those that "as above, so below", taking it for "religious experience".

But most just dreams, imagines, mechanically constructs images ... All depending on the degree of personal evolution, but always Introvert.

In all cases, a "Visionary", or "contemplation" in Russian ... but at different levels ... that is, with different floors of consciousness ", from the Absolute to the destructive.



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