The calf in formaldehyde for 19 million USD It goes without saying ...

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Сообщение от Vladimir

Excellent result. Auction waited with bated breath. He was supposed to show how the crisis affected the market of art. It turned out that everything is normal. And dealers were in a rage: from a business perspective is a complete rudeness do the work directly from the studio to auction, bypassing the gallery. Undermines the foundations of the market. But Hurst - krutan, he these rules the drum, and all auction dude not valerian drinking and playing pool Respect.

How touching, how charming details! Ah-ah-ah! That would clarify in advance which type of billiards played Hussar Hurst. Probably in Russian! : D

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Сообщение от Vladimir

The price of such profanation, in my opinion, something around $ 200 million Such money, even billionaires are not drained for no apparent purpose. And then the market is a narrow one - such large-scale profanity disclosed at once. People exchange ideas, and if it turns out that no one is buying, then tomorrow it will be in The Sun.

High as you view the Western press. Interestingly, it has happened you have a long or after the information campaigns in support of the bombing of Serbia, Iraq, South Ossetia? Or maybe sooner? After the sensational collapse of the internet market ( "Enron").: D

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

In fact, there are several problems. Discontinuous growth is not particularly profitable. Since stocks are not always possible to sell at great prices, people are suddenly willing to pay several times more. And in a small can, it will undermine the market an artist. Therefore, the aforesaid, with potentially high prices for work, can sit without selling and without money. Permanent sustained profitable growth for this reason.

I remember that was the information (perhaps even on this site) that Hurst finished production of "canned", "gestalt balls and cubes for mental development, and goes to the production of fresh (if I may use that word, referring to previous "flavored" products) products. So do not worry, dear Vlad, everything is calculated and knocked out, as they say, "our little factory single zabastovochki.

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Сообщение от uriart

interesting!
And how many would be sold to Hearst himself in a jar of formaldehyde?
I think that the purchasers would be found ...
It is time to make him a drug! Such a great artist!

I oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-very expensive! No less than a billion green wrappers! It is impossible to even imagine! It will be grandly, enchanting, and, most importantly, it is logical!!!: D

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Сообщение от iosif

JM-G,
Ridiculous. Although a bunch of "I'll kill" straining me even in a humorous context.

  Dear Joseph! Unfortunately, this strain only you and people like you. At the same, with the emptiness in my chest, nothing to strain. And so do not worry, nothing will happen to them, stand up, shake and go farther. We also important to express their attitude to this madness. Not for our sake, but for the sake of our children.

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Сообщение от Vladimir

Stop, stop. There is an artistic gesture, but there is stupidity. Edge palpable, not confuse. It's like that place, I do not know, Duchamp's Fountain on some scales with a "deed" Gerostrat. The idea of "herstonenavistnika" - is the manifest failure. As with it seems ridiculous to nothing.

Speaking of Duchamp. Something like that happened at one of the exhibitions, which exhibited Duchamp's urinal. An elderly man came to the exhibit, took out a hammer from his inside pocket and ... zhahnul of priceless masterpiece. The response that followed the question "Why did you do that?" Does not cause (for me) question in the mental health and even witty in the best traditions of absurdism (he is all the same as a Frenchman or how). He said that continued or logically concluded the author's intention in the spirit of Dada. I do not know about you, but I longed for such actions in our revulsion to emasculate the time.
      As for Duchamp, it was the first, and Hurst (ie he does not even original) - just trickster, durachaschy nouveaux riches of the world, which allowed the front of the Great West. " For only plebeians lick the hand master, while lyagaya Motherland. There is a lot to say on this subject and am very pleased that there are brave and intelligent people. Because to say that even under a pseudonym is not easy, because need inner courage and unblinkered. To counter such a powerful propaganda machine is very easy. Concerning the "manifest failure" - a cheap and primitive controversial method which is used for lack of arguments


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Сообщение от Vladimir

IMHO level Hirst at least comparable (and for me it is even superior) Andy Warhol. The same story: some mocked, others bought. And somehow that's absorbed. Hurst will resolve not - this is a phenomenon of interest is held for almost two decades. No, no options have two legs in the history.

I should clarify - feet first!: D

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Сообщение от fross

How? So he already has a business project that I made projections "brand without the artist, but perhaps with a living human embodiment"?

Dear Frosya! Once you pronounce it, then it already is.

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Сообщение от Vladimir

Here is what proital on our site: http://artinvestment.ru/news/artnews...temporary.html

Quote:

But the deputy chairman of the board of directors of Sotheby's Europe, "Lord Mark Paltimor was in apparent euphoria over the unprecedented sales of British artist Damien Hirst, ended yesterday. The two-day auction auction Sotheby's, which took place September 15 and 16, for the work of Hurst managed to gain 111 million pounds (198 million dollars), almost twice the estimate. "I had no idea that people have so much free money, it was fine. And it is wonderful that rich people have decided that money is invested in art. By the way, a quarter of all buyers were from Russia ", - confessed Sir Paltimor.

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  Love - is like? To look at dimmed with tears of admiration? It is enough to greatly enjoyed. Street-performers? So you did not question that you can love Keith Harring and Basques, but you can not love Hirst? What is the fundamental difference? Yes, Hirst's work is impossible to separate from the image of their creator, from the legendary Hearst, from lawlessness Hirst, from boorishness Hirst. Legend - this is an inseparable part of their perception. Well, Dora Maar by Picasso have the same "disadvantage" is not it?

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  There is. So what? Blaming the artist that his work often bought young careerists, asshole - it's like blaming BMW that "X's" like bandits.

And why not tears? What are they bad?

Well, yes, chaos Hirst, boorishness Hirst, Hirst shit - that's ready to dish intellegentnogo hysterics (which is always lacking in Russia) and all kinds of parvenu. And what will be served for dessert? : D

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Сообщение от Vladimir

friends, but we deliver Hurst are a number of "beads", such as: The Beatles, religious Range Rover and Jaguar, Amy Winehouse, Rolling Stones, serials BBC, Guy Ritchie, Top Gear, Jason Stetema, Reese Myers, the English style of dress and much more. Who of them is the claim? Political statements Caddish - yes, but that is seems to be the genre.
Leave Hirst alone But it is really devastating "supply", which concern me personally. Listed:
1. Children's milk chocolate, causing allergies, but promoted by aggressive advertising. every sweet trash to children.
2. Fast-food, promoted by aggressive advertising.
A Hurst? Yes he is quite harmless

No use what you have listed, no complaints. But there are claims to the smug and woozy from cluttering up all sorts of "fun" of Western elites and the service it clicks that do not care about dying children, the elderly, women, Iraq, Serbia, South Ossetia, which also could be looking episode, BBC, wear costumes British cut, take the Range Rover or Jaguar in the company of Amy Winehouse and the others you listed, and the music of Beatles or the Rolling Stones (who is like that) go to an exhibition of Damien Hirst! Why someone has usurped the right to decide who should live in this world, and who - no!
Dear Vladimir, I assure you, Russia will be able to respond to any rudeness, and this proves the history of our country!
A Damien Hirst I will not leave alone, because any person becoming public, must take responsibility for their actions. Or do you offer to us as sheep, to accept the fact that we are destined to become for English wool suit and the material to create "masterpieces" of Damien Hirst?
If you really think so, then tell me, what's the difference, what will our children eat: junk food, baby milk chocolate, causing allergies or food quality?

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Сообщение от Vladimir

People for their earnings or styrennye money want to buy the best (prestigious, recognized, preferably in a safe place). Patriotism, each with its own hackneyed Hirst us know
all but Motorina - not all. About Hearst write glantsevye magazines, and about Motorina not write.

Most importantly, in Russia the market is not an adequate supply, there is no work, can learn so much money. I wonder what will sell the Kremlin's auction house? I think if would have been masterpieces, the Gelos for the year would have grown some of the Kremlin.

      Patriotism - loyalty and love for his homeland, his people and readiness for any loss of life and great deeds for the sake of their homeland. (SIOzhegov. Dictionary of Russian language. M. 2003. Str.637)

      Conformity - opportunism, passive acceptance of the existing order of things, the prevailing opinion, etc. (LP KRYSIN. Dictionary of foreign words. M.1998. P. 356)

      In my opinion, dear Vladimir, from the above entries is quite clear that patriotism can not be at each their own, because the Motherland - the unity of the people, united by shared: the place of birth, language, history, culture, etc, etc. . Ie Patriotism can not be everyone has his own, individual, exclusive, like a jar of shit Hirst. But conformism just always very personal, so personal, that lives somewhere between the folds of fat at each Zhloba. And the animal is (I mean conformism) we feed our indifference and cowardice, sincerely believing. this nasty monster ever grow and devour all our enemies. In other words, conformity - an aggressive timidity, fed limitations, lack of education, fear of life, which is accompanied by despondency, cynicism and the inability to believe in iskrennnost feelings of others.

   And the work is, Vladimir. Perhaps you are looking bad, but probably not there. Or, maybe you do not Vladimir, and Bill or John? If so, tell me, I understand, and everything will be clear. Sorry if offended you so terrible suspicions.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Tiutchev

You do not Vladimir, and Bill or John?

  Not Bill and John is exactly, well-known journalist Vladimir (Vladimir B.), wrote a good article, like our "Soviet" motherland:
"Investment in Socialist Realism" http://www.directorinfo.ru/Article.a...98&iid=643
(Although a direct question is Volodya your article? "And was no answer, probably shy). Article certainly controversial, particularly for investment risks.

[fross]

Tjutchev High as you view the Western press. Interestingly, it has happened you have a long or after the information campaigns in support of the bombing of Serbia, Iraq, South Ossetia? Or maybe sooner? After the sensational collapse of the internet market (Enron ").

Well first of Enron (Enron) to the Internet had nothing to do - it was the energy company. And even as the consequences of its collapse is no internet companies can not be named, to destroy the company Arthur Andersen (Arthur Andersen) - but they are auditing company.: D

And secondly, Vladimir does not deserve those words that you have written. Given your not careful, it is quite possible that you simply do not properly understand.: D

[Евгений]

Сообщение от fross

it is quite possible that you simply do not properly understand.

Vladimir clear position ... it is not difficult to understand.

[qwerty]

Tiutchev, Vladimir - a very good journalist, and a very bad versed in the art, you are attacking him for nothing, just that he was one of those rare people who seem to really like Hirst, Koons and other Murakami.: )

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Сообщение от qwerty

Vladimir - very good journalist

Well how could I not praise the Chief!

Сообщение от qwerty

very well versed in the art

Tovarysch Tiutchev, and you posovetovalis with tovaryschem Manin?: Confused:

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Сообщение от fross

Well, first of Enron (Enron) to the Internet had nothing to do - it was the energy company. And even as the consequences of its collapse is no internet companies can not be named, to destroy the company Arthur Andersen (Arthur Andersen) - but they are auditing company.: D

And secondly, Vladimir does not deserve those words that you have written. Given your not careful, it is quite possible that you simply do not properly understand.: D

                                                                                                               Dear Frosya, perhaps I, that is confused. Surely you are right that the campaign "Damage": D is not the Internet campaign, but that change is indeed an issue that I raised in my comments. Your comment only once again confirms the primary (main) thought my reasoning. Because no matter the name, a campaign to insert into the essence of my proposal does not change. I spoke about the bias of Western media. Arguing against the stereotype. We in fact do not even notice it as a magic effect on us, these foreign words (wrapped in the romance of distant countries that have only recently been available as from the more sweet for the Russian ear). You just say "The Guardian", "Le Figaro", "The Independent", "Sun", etc. etc. But if you look more closely acquainted with the materials of most Western media, then you will escape from the bias of their authors. (there is a good site www.inosmi.ru). As for Vladimir earned or not earned those words that I wrote, I can not answer that the forum is not a place where anything deserve. Forum is a place where people exchange views, and not a compliment (although it is not bad). I am not against Vladimir, and his opinion, shared by many people. Concerning the form in which I can say that he asked a few Vladimir aggressive ( "journalist") tone of the whole conversation. Why is only one passage of "manifest failures." Get tips and Evgenia carefully read the texts. And then if I made a mistake somewhere, it does not mean that everything that I was here spread nonsense. This is a blow below the belt. On a deceit! However, I can understand you Frosya you're a woman, as you know "a woman's soft-hearted men. It seems to me, a woman and should be good after all these qualities, we (men) like in you. It is these qualities help you be a mother, sister, wife. So the world works. You Frosya probably very good. Volodya was very lucky that you sympathize with him. But the heart of the matter to your remark has only relative significance. I kiss my hand! While PS Frosya not accuse me of male chauvinism on reading this text. I'm good! I am very fond of women !

[LCR]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

I'm good! I love women!

And what about dogs?
No, seriously, for me, a good man can not love dogs.
Please confirm!

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Message from Vladimir
The price of such profanation, in my opinion, something around $ 200 million Such money, even billionaires are not drained for no apparent purpose. And then the market is a narrow one - such large-scale profanity disclosed at once. People exchange ideas, and if it turns out that no one is buying, then tomorrow it will be in The Sun.

High as you view the Western press. Interestingly, it has happened you have a long or after the information campaigns in support of the bombing of Serbia, Iraq, South Ossetia? Or maybe sooner? After the sensational collapse of the internet market (Enron ").

I believe in the power of scandal. Both the Americans on the moon. Remember the sources from which the agents from "Men In Black" extract information?

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

As for Vladimir earned or not earned those words that I wrote, I can not answer that the forum is not a place where anything deserve. Forum is a place where people exchange views, and not a compliment (although it is not bad). I am not against Vladimir, and his opinion, shared by many people. Concerning the form in which I can say that he asked a few Vladimir aggressive ( "journalist") tone of the whole conversation. Why is only one passage of "manifest failures."

Go ahead, no problem. I agree that the forum is not the place for insults Hurst - krutan, Murakami - pop

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Сообщение от Eugene

loves our "Soviet" motherland:
"Investment in Socialist Realism" http://www.directorinfo.ru/Article.a...98&iid=643
(Although a direct question is Volodya your article? "And was no answer, probably shy). Article certainly controversial, particularly for investment risks.
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Eugene probably did not notice the post. My article. Nothing to be ashamed of. All sincere. With massive socialist realism personally experiencing cognitive dissonance. This singling out great - Pimenov and others Prniksya ideas Shishkin was udeditelen. Moreover, the principle - to follow the ideas of knowledge So let's convince each other.

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Сообщение от LCR

No, seriously, for me, a good man can not love dogs.
Please confirm!

true. But he can feel them terrible allergies, my case: (

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Сообщение от Tiutchev

Vladimir, from the above entries is quite clear that patriotism can not be at each their own, because the Motherland - the unity of the people, united by shared: the place of birth, language, history, culture, etc. etc.

Conceptually. But IMHO garbage, Pudong mois. You can think of patriotic family, and you can collect donations to the starving Germany (http://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/Собачье_сердце). Blin, strayed from the art, it's time to claim his legs U patriotism is the common basis. But different derivatives - you can praise the well-being as a national idea, and can be peace in the world.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

And the work is, Vladimir. Perhaps you are looking bad, but probably not there. Or, maybe you do not Vladimir, and Bill or John?

Vladimir - that's my nickname since 1975. Dogadyvates what then?

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Сообщение от qwerty

Tjutchev, Vladimir - very good journalist, and a very bad versed in the art, you are attacking him for nothing, simply because he was one of those rare people who seem to really like Hurst , Koons and other Murakami .

      Friends I am absolutely not questioning for professional quality of Vladimir, the more that I am personally not familiar with him. At such forums should be possible to meet all virtual companions. And what would you do for people like me who have their position to sit and be silent in a rag? We, therefore, is "silent" Moscow (my town) to see what was left of some "pencils" - faceless buildings that many in any city in the world. And all this under the "bleating" of our "intelligentsia," which was so warm and dry under the "giant cap. Where is the normal, honest people? Where have they all gone? All we are, in fact, cowards and indifferent people are citizens of Russia that can not be called (all of a sudden become citizens of the world champions that kind of shared values)! Not only we understand that the entire educated world knows we do not like trash, which is drained nobody needs, (completely foreign to us) recycled art, but as a fellow of Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky and Malevich, Rachmaninoff, Filonov, Popova, Pavlov, Queen, Plesetsk, etc. and so on. Well, if we were talking about journalism, it is not at all (with rare exceptions) in our God-forsaken state. That's what we should talk! And not about chocolate, and other utilitarian trash! Under these conversations, we just do not lose the country! It's time to think about something more important! For example, who are we to eat? Ruminants or citizens of their country? Art Hirst same product, as well as Hollywood movies! Tell me who of you my dear places at night, these "good fairy tales" to their children? Or do you think you are special and what is happening around you, will not affect your children? All this we have already passed. In any case, friends, let us speak on the substance! All the rest leave beyond the threshold of the forum! I do not much doubt that you are all very decent and educated people but I'm not about that! Sorry, sore!

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Сообщение от LCR

What about dogs?
No, seriously, for me, a good man can not love dogs.
Please confirm!

  Dogs love just do not like those who castrates for their own "good."