Visionary Art (Visionary art)

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Сообщение от appolinary

in the mystical art forms, but the viewer and the artist has always involved a certain third, who decided to manifest itself in this way.

And at what stage in the artist's works that "certain third" originate?

Сообщение от appolinary

Display of the result of the demonstration and he is part of a holistic action, including the art business and explain the meaning of the revelation of the profane.

Something is wise, as it were, and you begin to understand, once a divorce.
All this looks like some sort of layout:
Drugs - is impossible, but it can vodka. (c)

[Marsula]

appolinary, Yes! All historically logical! Thank you very lucidly!

And here is where young, new shoots?
Artists, chose this direction, apparent in our forum, or pictures ссылочки put !

[appolinary]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Drugs - is impossible, but you can tip. (c)

You "everything possible", as said Fyodor Dostoevsky in one of his novels.

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от appolinary

The smaller of the artist as a mediator, the integral expression of what has decided to incarnate. Mystical artist might care about, basically, is the relationship with the supreme substance, and absolutely do not care about the view the viewer (especially if the viewer believes that the mystical act of art and genius, whether or not it is from his point of view).
The quality of performance skills needed mainly to confirm the stability and awareness of the act.

If this contributes to communicative products, as well as its merchantability of art market, it only is welcomed (because all the movement of energy from experience or revelation in the ISS until the moment when the picture is dressed in a frame and hung on the wall and more .. . - is common, although the mutations stream coming from without beginning and going to infinity).

I'm generally a layman, but look carefully and faithfully all the pictures in this thread and several times, and re-read all the texts and ... did not understand ...
That highlighted in red, I was quite confused ... Probably each need more explanation, what a symbol which stands for and what is this or that piece ... Indeed, the complex painting ...

[appolinary]

Сообщение от Jasmin

Indeed, the complex painting ...

Complexity vospritiya "'s message" works as determined by the difference of cultures. In addition, to understand the esoteric washed all the same to some preliminary training, in that you are absolutely right.

"The smaller of the artist as a mediator, the integral expression of what has decided to incarnate."

This is an allusion to classical postulate, which states that there is some ideal world of infinite potential of incarnations, which is the very basis of our own, in the ultimate reality, common to all consciousness. Knowledge of this world, its levels, possibly with the help of various spiritual practices ... or simply focus (later becoming "religious factor"), the total awareness of their own actions, which "breaks the stereotyped" everyday behavior.
In case of contact with the energies of this level, the adept interpretation, receives a certain impression and revelation ... It is said that there was contact between subject and object, which becomes objectification, that is an involution and the desire to embody the image. Described action of contemplation is carried out not by a dialectic of the mind (the ego creates the presentation), but from another center (in reality it is "heart vision"). When I say "less of an artist as a mediator, the integral expression of what has decided to incarnate." , Is due to the fact that fewer of the ego (stereotypical notions about "myself" and "own" the social role function), the more authentic, truly the essence of energy, which was us.

In fact, the essence and image, its whiteness ego-projections are indicative of the spiritual level of the artist himself (speaking about the spiritual and the practical application of this method).

Carried away Zen calligraphy will understand me without difficulty.

[Jasmin]

The horror of some, but I understood nothing of what you wrote ... apparently the cultural level I need to improve.

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Сообщение от appolinary

Zen calligraphy

Please tell us what it is.

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Сообщение от Jasmin

Please tell me what it is.

Reasoning with the students: "When I want to drink - I drink, When I want to eat - I eat!"
                                                                                   Zen Buddhism
P.S. You this offer?

[appolinary]

Site Maura Holden http://www.mauraholdenartworks.com

[appolinary]

Robert Venosa with Jan Kounen: A conversation

Robert Venosa and Peter Gric Interview

Robert Venosa - "The Artist & Shaman"

"To Inspire" Robert Venosa & Martina Hoffman

"The Artist's Leap of Faith" Robert Venosa & Martina Hoffman

Seminars Visionary Art of Robert Venosa and Martina Hoffman at the institute OMEGA

Robert (and his wife of Martin) teaches the techniques of painting Mische
(Which he received during his studies at the Salvador Dali, Ernst Fuchs and Mati Klarveyna).
http://www.eomega.org/omega/workshop...a6/?source=UTB


http://www.gric.at/

http://www.jankounen.com/

http://www.martinahoffmann.com/

http://www.venosa.com/

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Сообщение от Jasmin

The horror of some, but I understood nothing of what you wrote ... apparently cultural level I need to improve.

Well ... not so hopeless all really, especially if without prejudice, because the images "kontemporari" and "Les Demoiselles d'Avignon" does not seem to have no one terrible ... Mermaid swam the river blue /Ozaryaema full moon ... " - No mermaids, but nothing prevents you to enjoy this way and you do not wonder at this important (for this discussion), question why it is like ... Can be terrible - "And he leaned in to my mouth and pulled the sinner my tongue ..." - And nothing genius ... I want to say that what is now referred to as "fantasy", it was always, nobody had nothing against the ballet is, for example ... And in the painting were still far more frightening images, and Dante tried too ... Just in the new time everything came together: the science and history, and psychoanalysis, the last war all the efforts ... And the strongest impact of new technologies, the information has fallen ... I think that these directions should cause, at least, curiosity, at what might be a disturbance?