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Старый 08.09.2009, 11:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Someone knows similar examples from history, when the powers that be pointed out that the artists and how to write?
I recall gathering of "Night Watch" by Rembrandt, but he had quarreled with everyone and did not correct. By the way, unlike Rembrandt, Glazunov, too, did not correct, but not at odds.



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Старый 08.09.2009, 11:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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Someone knows similar examples from history, when the powers that be pointed out that the artists and how to write?
Sorry, but not far to seek. Our recent history (30 years ago at least) will give you the following examples.
Was a Ideological Department of the CPSU Central Committee. You not enough?
  And in this department Units kulpropotdel, party propaganda, agitation tdel. All official culture was under the control of the CPSU, all taken by the Commission, any work of art must have been approved, and if there were moments of these unapproved obkom, gorkomovskimi commissions proizvedniya-altered or placed on shelves. Examples-hundreds and thousands.
Remind you, as head of state shouted at the Manege artists?



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Старый 08.09.2009, 11:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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By age I am a socialist period in history for himself does not think so. And so what were the general rules and they lived. Of interest are earlier examples.
Tiutchev - thank you. And what end? Queen did not correct?



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Старый 08.09.2009, 11:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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In view of the age I am a socialist period in history for himself does not think so. And so what were the general rules and they lived. Of interest are earlier examples.
Tiutchev - thank you. And what end? Queen did not correct?
What ended this particular episode, the story tactfully silent. But it continued:

"The events of 1905 profoundly shocked Serov.

"Even his sweet nature has changed abruptly - recalls Repin, - he became morose, brusque, quick-tempered and intolerant, especially surprised all of his extreme political views that have come to him somehow suddenly. With him and then skirting the issue.

Serov out of the Academy of Arts, all refused to carry out orders the Royal Court. In a telegram asking to write a portrait of the king meets short telegram: "In this house I am no longer working."

In 1910, in St. Petersburg at the Mariinsky Theater, was "Boris Godunov". Listen to opera came to the king.

The choir was on her knees, performing the national anthem. Fyodor Chaliapin, who was on stage singing with him on his knees ... After some time, while in Monte Carlo, Chaliapin received a letter. It has invested a lot of newspaper clippings about the monarchist demonstrations singer and a short note: "What kind of grief that even you end by fours. Would be ashamed. " And the caption: "Serov".

Here is what the artist's daughter, remembers how he reacted to act Chaliapin:

"I remember my father walked around the room. His face expressed pain in the hand he was rubbing his chest. "How could this happen - my father said - that Fyodor Ivanovich, a man of leftist, a friend of Gorky, could do so! Seen here in Russia can only serve on all fours. "

"Novels about the artists' Dolgopolov IV



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It can be seen here in Russia can only serve on all fours ».»
And what does that change anything?



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What does that change anything?
Nothing has changed, and will never change. To be exact, never and nowhere. The fact that this state of affairs is not unique either for Russia or for that time, nor for the present. The problem of relations between creative personality and authority existed always and everywhere. This was written many books based on real facts.
    The artist is difficult, always and everywhere where there is dictatorship and injustice, and they are everywhere where there is power. And power is everywhere, where there are people. Power has various manifestations: these Mafiosi in Italy, and a corrupt cop in Russia, and the oil tycoon in the United States, and the King of France 14 - th century. If you represent Russia in a kind of island of evil and injustice, it is to sin against the truth.
It is also fair to say that power has always been some kind of a reactionary force. The history is full of examples where it was and protector, and patron of worthy artists. All much more complicated and much simpler time. I think that this problem is much more productive, could be seen as part of interpersonal relationships, rather than in political contexts. Although they, of course, there is but we know that politics is always rests in someone else's personal interests.
And of course, such a character as you like power painter, too, is eternal. And not always a mediocrity or moral monsters. "The devil is always hidden in the details" (folklore).



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Do you want to say that Damian did not die poor by his death?
"His death" also occurs for different reasons.
"Demian poor died of fear, - writes V. Gordeev. - He has a Bureau was a permanent place, where he was accustomed. And suddenly, in the forty-fifth, something changed. Only, it was, headed for a poet to his usual place during one of triumph, like Molotov, unkindly glittering pince-nez glasses, he asked his icy voice: "Where?" Demian long backed, like geisha. Then doplelsya to the house and died. This was told his sister "(V. Gordeeva Execution by hanging. Nevydumannye novel in four stories about love, betrayal, death, written" by "the KGB. M., 1995. P. 165).



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And suddenly, in the forty-fifth, something changed.
In 1938 Demian poor was expelled from the party and expelled from the Kremlin and, of course, it stopped printing.
And it all started at all in 1936, when he wrote the libretto of comic opera "Heroes" (the baptism of Rus), which has angered Molotov visited the show, and then Stalin.



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I knew.
Theme about "The Artist and the government."

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That liberals populist intellectuals pushed Rossiyskuyu empire in the Bolshevik nightmare
Already clear that the debate on these issues does not work, and get a set of slogans, which goes into personal insults.
We bdim and you be careful in the statements, please.



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I just knew.
Theme about "The Artist and the government."

Already clear that the debate on these issues does not work, and get a set of slogans, which goes into personal insults.
We bdim and you buddte careful in the statements, please.
The last time you brushed one size fits all the posts and removed primarily political vysskazyvaniya, especially anti-Putin.
What are you afraid of? What law office crush site? It is unlikely that these guys before our company has a strange business. These other sites to track, and on those forums bdyat hard. And then - all still alive and well, the same Rubinstein on the same "Granite" ...



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