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Old 23-08-2009, 01:32 Original language: Russian        #1
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Gentlemen I do not want to strain you, but suddenly - from memory, at first glance somebody finds a characteristic smear of these studies.
Kartinochkam years to 30-Th. Cardboard, oil.
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Old 27-08-2009, 19:12 Original language: Russian        #2
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Winter sketch similar to the work of someone from Leningrad artists: Tatarinov, Lomakin or early (early 1950's) Dm. Buchkin writing in Staraya Ladoga. If you rely on the "smear", the fourth sketch may be the work of the OL Lomakin. But the first two studies in this concept does not fit. The first sketch is good: courageous energetic person, but the pilot - a time not later than the Finnish War, 1939-40 (ie, those artists were too young to write it). The second sketch, in my opinion, weak, and "smear" is not like the two recent works.



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but the pilot - a time not later than the Finnish War, 1939-40
Sorry, but why the pilot? "Then do what it does not match - frock, tunic with insignia and .... Budyonovka. Vprotchem characteristic picture of the first decades of sov.vlasti written later. In the first and third sketches feel confident hand.



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The word "pilot" is in the caption to the image, and the tabs of the blue that does not contradict. Telnyashka? Vests with tunics marine pilots were even in the Great Patriotic War. A Budyenny helmets - really strange. Infantry in the Finnish war still wore Budyenny helmets (and then they were replaced), but what about the pilots - do not know. Caps worn: there is a photograph of VI Chkalov 1937 in his cap. But perhaps we are talking about even earlier time - about 1920.



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I have the "selfish" interest in these studies. I bought a whole pile of caked dozen, because it looked "pilot" - he was on top.

It seemed to me that all kartinochek one hand, smear rather typical. Began looking for something signed, complete, in this manner, not found. So decided to ask - "what if".

  Dating gizmos can only cardboard, in my opinion, he was 30-40 years. Although, of course, agrees that more age - judging by the same "pilot", which obviously did not write from memory, and all this could be up to the war.
However, you have convinced me ... looked closely originals - different authors. At least two of them in this collection.
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Old 27-08-2009, 21:53 Original language: Russian        #6
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Gentlemen I do not want to strain you, but suddenly - from memory, at first glance somebody finds a characteristic smear of these studies.
Kartinochkam years to 30-Th. Oil on cardboard.
2 year art school in any city.
The level of the student is average
Portrait Budyonovka staging. Objective - perspective. Racurs as it is, but on drawing and painting sketch not reach.
Students sketch - summer practice. "True" assumed the proportions of his hands and knees speak for themselves.
3 and 4 studies poprilichnee, although very similar, that the author is the same.
It seems that the sketch fresh (not older than 90g.)
Following five sketch also student
Arrangement on labor 1-2 years hud.uchilischa
Etude summer practice
other 3 - just a feeble sketch.
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Dating gizmos can only cardboard, in my opinion, his age 30-40
Check pogruntovan than cardboard. Poverty almost all students enjoy the paperboard. Blot lazy and limited sizing, or gelatin or PVA. If the paint is not had time to dry up - sketches quite fresh.



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v_r, Thank you for your competent and clear analysis.
That absurdity and explain to the pilot - students dressed model of selection.
Hence Budyenny helmets, and frock ... But it is not appropriate historical time is not very old cardboard.
I understand some pupillary meaning of these sketches, but it was interesting to find out - if that were or are students of decent artists. Time still quite a few passed.
  But my "selfish" interest was shagreen leather.



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And yet there was a time when the pilots were and Budyenny helmets! In the photo on the left - VP Chkalov.
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Amateur, Valery Pavlovich was chubby at all times ...
However, I will not argue. Having in view the original topic, I agree with v_r
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But I will not argue. Having in view the original topic, I agree with v_r
I also agree. You can only add that the value of these studies will have only "pack", ie as an example as taught, what were "ideological" posing and the like, "museum" interest ...



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