Reflections

[fross]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

fross, Art 19-in. look, and then love, not after visits to antique shops.

Like not after going to museums, but by communicating with professionals who will teach the correct view and understand. Do not exclude that it may be, museum professionals, but there are becoming increasingly rare.

What did you have in mind

19-in. will not be collected accurately, it is simply no.

Collect all the same nothing, and learn to love is not it?

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Grigory

Even living in London, does not give you the right way deface the Russian language.

Firstly I am not in London.
Secondly, the theme is: Talk site and forum Questions, suggestions, proposals, what and how to improve and change, criticism, complaints, etc.
   All my posts were MOST OF INTEREST ..
"Big Brother" is watching stgoro that on his farm "All animals are equal, (but some would necessarily equal!"
Who does not know that "stupid goat NATA NOVA" Well, no longer wants to respect the "Big Brother"?
  (or Big Brother?)
   Yes zdravstvet freedom, equality, fraternity!

[Nedogonov]

In my unenlightened view of the situation on the forum is composed with one hand easier, but on the other - more complex than was indicated by respected Gans' th and colleague Tyutchev in their communications.
Simply because all the negative to the forum brings in 90%of cases, only one User (in 9%- is other people acting out of solidarity or a desire to enjoy this user, or a low sense of group activity). Ugly atmosphere is only supported his efforts.
  Harder - because of this User no power to the forum did not uproot. And even if it zabanivaniya, he can get into the forum under a different nickname. But, most importantly, very few people saw his danger, not realizing that all the bickering on the forum - this is exactly the food that User eats and for which he grazes on the forum.

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Why I am inclined to demonize this User? The fact that he is incredibly prolific. But this is the essence of the fertility of cancer cells, suppress vital functions of a healthy organism.
Of the hundreds of posts, he became the father and that I was able to view rarely found informative. This poddakivanie or anyone else, or personalized insults, done with great ingenuity, or - the mindless copying of commonplaces of quotations from the Internet. In this and in another, and in the third case - this is normal, golimy flood.
User is, however, do not bother, and he considers it his duty to get in each subject, penetrating into every message in order to show his "erudition". And he does it with the tenacity of a cat walking, sweeping its territory. The main incentive - to attract attention and get plenty of gratitude.
The same User Byl first to their unduly harsh, somewhat obtuse statements for the first time ruined my impression of the forum. I know at least two other people who have registered on the forum, but after reading all the "bazaar", which usually was the epicenter of the User, more here did not go.
I myself believe that the man, the bearer of professional knowledge, much can be forgiven in some cases and lack of restraint, too. This, as a rule - the flip side of his professionalism and centering on the work. But hamovatost and reasoning "for art's sake" - this is unacceptable in a civilized conversation equal.

I think that this problem is the most important forum. All other participants and the regulars - the people of sound mind, at least, and ready to listen to other people. Our own User is seriously ill in my opinion, and even feel sorry for him is at times - confused man, nor the fact that there is. Gardener would be out of it came out good! B. People ate fruit and praised him and all would have been nice and good.
Sincerely, Dr. Nedogonov

[Buscador]

Сообщение от fross

love not after going to museums, but by communicating with professionals who will teach the correct view and understand. Do not exclude that it may be, museum professionals, but there are becoming increasingly rare.

  They love certainly not after visiting museums, and not after communicating with professionals. The feeling of love and yearning for beauty arises somewhere inside, after seeing, prochuvstvovanogo ... A professional (real ones, which can be and books included) help to understand the depth, to explain light-shadow relationships and stuff ... At least, so it was with me.

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Yes zdravstvet freedom, equality, fraternity!

The motto of the French - the eternal enemy of Great Britain ...
C - Freedom is the ability to do everything that does not harm others.
R - All citizens are equal before the law and therefore have equal access to all high offices, public positions and employments, according to their abilities and without any other distinction than that of their virtues and abilities.
B - Do not do to others what would not want to get myself, and do in relation to other such good deeds, which would in relation to itself.

There are small contradictions ...: rolleyes:

[Бирюза]

Сообщение от fross

love not after going to museums, but by communicating with professionals who will teach the correct view and understand.

  So we went back to the first post of this topic.
  It is always interesting to listen to pro, listen with an open mouth, learn to understand. And the pros do not always want to share their knowledge. They complain of lower-level discussions, that is, in fact want to "unfasten" newcomers and remain in a narrow circle of the elect.
    Categorically object. Nobody has the right to decide whom to visit the site, and who does not.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Turquoise

So we went back to the first post of this topic.
  It is always interesting to listen to pro, listen with an open mouth, learn to understand. And the pros do not always want to share their knowledge. They complain of lower-level discussions, that is, in fact want to "unfasten" newcomers and remain in a narrow circle of the elect.
    Categorically object. Nobody has the right to decide who visit the Site and who does not.

Yeah ... and judges, most importantly, who?

[Бирюза]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Yeah ... and judges, most importantly, who?

  Exactly! And it is unclear what criteria will go "screening". By evil? On talent? So many of the artists "are" talented and as a consequence we buy, only after his death.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Turquoise

So many of the artists "are" talented and as a consequence buy, only after his death.

So you mean artists? I thought you pro users.

Сообщение от Turquoise

want to "unfasten" newcomers and remain in a narrow circle of the selected

[LCR]

Сообщение от Turquoise

So we went back to the first post of this topic.
  It is always interesting to listen to pro, listen with an open mouth, learn to understand. And the pros do not always want to share their knowledge. They complain of lower-level discussions, that is, in fact want to "unfasten" newcomers and remain in a narrow circle of the elect.
    Categorically object. Nobody has the right to decide who visit the Site and who does not.

I have an impression that at least one of the participating in the plot calls for someone to drive out (except, perhaps, we with Kirill).
People who complain about the absence - or presence in sufficient quantities - professionals (myself, I did not regard them, please note), I think, quite understandable. It is hoped that this situation will change over time, at least for this administration is doing everything possible.
Hence, anyone anyone "unbuckle" is not going to.
But agree that each forum is inherent in a certain tone, and here the task of each beginner - to feel that the tone and try to observe it and not turn the forum into a circus.
The administration is fighting against the aggressive flooding. Do you really think that it is wrong? Look, for example, the plot of American Painting "(such examples are quite a few) - there is talk about everything except painting. Is it so difficult to write is not to say literary, but at least sane Russian language and do not abuse capital letters - from this constant screaming headache ... It is clear, and the attempt to group all this Vivien flood in one place, but no shit it did not help.

I know one forum (French, dedicated to classical music), where the administrator ruthlessly and immediately cuts off all communications "outside the plot." At the forum (the stock, also French), I refer to that report more tolerant, much like here. But everything has a limit.

In the end, there is a pergola, and any member of the forum - professional or not, old-timer or newcomer - there may be to ask all their questions on subjects unrelated to art.

P.S. Since it is now in fashion, ask me have you a question intriguing me since the appearance of your forum: your avatar - this is your dog? The arbor is a story dedicated to our animals, would you tell us about it, everybody would be happy.

[Бирюза]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

So you mean artists? I thought you pro users.

  And who are the users? Dealers, artists, critics and others, etc., etc.