Mark Rothko

[Konstantin]

Sitting on a beach in Turkey from 12 to 15 - hell, you can die. Went to the forum, but here, too hot.

Chernomashentsev Vladimir
I largely agree with your assessment of Rothko. Here is my photo essay
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=31205
But do not throw out to the water and the child. As you Lanskoy, de Stael? These are questions to fully understand your preferences. The approach of art - all that I can not myself, strange.

[sss]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

I'm not an artist, I like that from the Chukchi jokes: "Chukchi not the reader, Chukchi - a writer." I - Collector. I do not have a special thin. education because of their unlearned can write and talk all crap. I buy what I like, rather than art historians. What and confess honestly. My opinion novice and amateur can not hurt anyone ... What is there to ask me ...

Immediately anticipating possible charges in the complete absence of my relevant theme of education and a diploma, once again I beg to draw attention to a footnote at the bottom "From the Editor ...»

There are no people who think that they did not realize in this topic (did not realize - forums microbiologists). ))
You do not have any education and understanding, just like to have five special education and nicherta no sense (examples of mass).
Speculate on any topic can be either on the confidence that you know, or, indeed, from understanding.
So, your hide and seek (with the wall of the lack of special education) looks funny coquetry.

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

For me, art is what I under no circumstances would not be able to repeat itself.

Oh, I do - even more radically: the art - this is what I personally think the art.

However, to do so (squares of Malevich, Rothko, and rolls of wallpaper, etc.) must first think so, and then he physically can.

If Square (Malevich) can be repeated, then with Nikas Safronov be some difficulties. Never mind that for this reason it will be next to the Vermeer?

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

See the book:
Museum of Modern iskusstva.Nyu York. 2005 WORD

And ask yourself questions:

1) Can you repeat a bunch of wires and lamps, as made on p. 281 Rodi Graumans? Incidentally, he is my year of birth, but I no longer Kruchu wiring money and earn a living exclusively own mind.

2) Is it possible to produce infinitely SMART cars on the assembly line, as on page 291?

3) Can I use the screwdriver to attach to a wall shelf, as it did on page 274, Robert Ryman?

4) Is it possible to again expand the corrugated board, as it did on page 275, Frank O. Jerry?

5) Can I also "highly artistic" hang on the wall felt like it did on page 255, Robert Morris?

))) Can
exactly like the letters of our alphabet to make those same words ... Only if this is worth remembering that the "frost and sun, a wonderful day!" - is not a summary meteorologist.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Responding to the admin-y Konstantin-y, I see that even though people and is located on the beach in Turkey, but he has a cool head. By the way, here in Moscow is too hot and stuffy.
I think that it is in your photo essay I've quoted a little earlier, when I tried to argue their views on Rothko. As mentioned you name, then do not hesitate to say that I did not recognize these names.

I would be that a simpler and clearer:
in his youth about twenty years ago, I loved the Impressionists from the Pushkin Museum and the third floor of the Hermitage, but now I love the beginning of Russian 20 th century:
Petrov-Vodkin, Vrubel, Kuindzhi, Filonov, Goncharova, Popova, Serebryakova ...
The enthusiasm of the "Red Cavalry" by Malevich, but in general he did not very much.
Matyushin "Movement in Space" - clearly more interesting Rothko.
And even artists who glorified the Soviet Empire: Dejneka or biscuits (the banner). Oh, I remembered a conversation about Redko "Revolt" 1924-1925.

Can also be called, including not very well-known artists. I animal is omnivorous - I like it a lot, ranging from Rembrandt (but do not like Rubens to the core and its great mass).

The collection I have a realistic painting, and even the type of Sots Art (but I would argue about ownership of my paintings to this style), and grew up to abstraction. If the picture excellent color and interesting texture - that's great! But good colorists bit. Simply daub colored squares or do photorealism.

: shy:

From SSS it's perfect reasoned message - a lot can listen and take note. Pleasure to read qualities of the texts, let him with something and do not agree. Moreover, any normal person eventually has to change their views. I think that 20 years ago, I would not even received the abstraction level Matyushina, considering Impressionist ideal.

Granted, the definition of SSS more accurately (for a specific person), but I'm just so afraid of myself to write. However, any idea can pervert and bring to the insanity.

Agree c SSS, that invent a new - well worth it. That's why I wrote cho Square Malevich - the first. And deserves respect. A regular color American box painted in 70-80gody 20 th century - is hopelessly outdated. If I draw squares on the stencil from a container-type "Blue Monochrome" Yves Klein, it is unlikely that anyone will admire me. But I am ready to look at the original "Ocean Park 115" by Richard Dibenkorna - suddenly there is something interesting I find.

Of course, I tried to speak with sarcasm, when I was a lady taught that to understand the works Rothko need special knowledge. And so, they say, as I do not understand, you can not even speculate on this topic.

All right.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

in his youth about twenty years ago, I loved the Impressionists from the Pushkin Museum and the third floor of the Hermitage, but now I love the beginning of Russian 20 th century:
Petrov-Vodkin, Vrubel, Kuindzhi, Filonov, Goncharova, Popova, Serebryakova ...

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

I think that 20 years ago, I would just did not take even abstraction level Matyushina, considering Impressionist ideal.

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Moreover, any normal person eventually has to change their views.

Following from the above stories you, even 10-20 years and Rothko become make. By the way I personally think of it as a big, meaningful thin.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Somehow I have not stick in your head, which for 50 years before Rothko someone has already done so on. Create interesting, did the first time. And even the woman was capable of this. I apologize for famous quotations, as well as easier to show on the known samples. Here are my arguments:

1) Matyushin, movement in space, 1920, fragment
2) Rozanov, Pointless Arrangement, 1916
3) Larionov, Camp, 1910, fragment
4) Boltovich, Fresh Wind, 1916
5) Labas, train goes, 1929

Sorry for the quality of copies - forced to crawl from the album in the absence of the originals in my collection. We can say that it's not quite like. But I even reproductions seem more significant than the original Rothko, which only the size and superior designs early 20 th century. Rozanova - quite similar. Matyushin, like Malevich in the Red cavalry, was able to show the minimum means this momentum! And from Boltovich well and breathe fresh air, the wind changes!
Where the dynamics and the mood of the Rothko? Even the little-known Rozanova and Boltovich interesting. And they were the first.

I have several paintings in the collection of a People's Artist of Russia, which is very good wizard in the style of impressionism. That's when he was late for a hundred years. Or half-century art - this is a moment?

Alas, it seems to me that in relation to Rothko, I have not changed my views. It's like To change from the foreign cars on the "Lada".

[eva777]

I had this discussion reminds anecdote:
One Jew decided to build a house. Constructed it, but the earthquake happened and the house collapsed.
The second time built, ran a hurricane and once again destroyed the house.
The third time has built and the flood and ...
He prayed: O Lord, for what??
And the Lord replied: "Well, do not you nravissya me. Nravissya not!"

[Allena]

Yesterday deducted in the "TV-Park" awfully nice anecdote (in topic): Scientists have discovered the universe orange-green-violet hole. They are as dangerous and mysterious as the black, but look at them much more fun

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Is it possible to share jokes in another place, girls?
Give us boys, to feel great connoisseur of art. Do not interfere with our fine hobby.

  Author subordinate communication: I raschitavayu only to those with a healthy sense of humor. Others I do not care. Also, if I confined myself to the word "girls" - it could be hurt. But the word "boys", used a little further towards the situation straightens itself.

[Grigory]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir, you would smileys, though, put!
And then the "girls" and "boys" are to understand your pedagogical tone!
: D: D: D

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir, this topic is not you have created, incidentally.
  And should not you build it "gender" orders. What do you think?