Mark Rothko

[LCR]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

In the original: .. "but I am ready to die for you, so you can make it .."

In the original - something between my and your options:
«Je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire. "
"I do not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от LCR

In the original - something between my and your options:
«Je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire. "
"I do not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

Now would also learn the pronunciation ...
Thank lapul!

[Yaya]

It seems we have another Paul. In a skirt: o: D: D

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от LCR

My husband, Roginsky, once painted, which put the text (in French translation, truth). Now this picture hangs in a Basel banker

The picture in the studio!

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

In the late 80-ies of the XX century, this phrase famous Soviet satirist evoked nervous laughter in the hall. However, I quote from his childhood memory, so I can be wrong with the accuracy of quotations, but the sense is roughly as follows. For in those days in the USSR pineapples for the people was not. And if someone would boast that he tried this inexpensive exotic fruit until 1991, then let them show their membership card, or does not exaggerate their "heroism."
Conversation on the topic, as I see, is the standard fate of any topic, which eventually outliving itself. It requires a certain shake-up. But back to Rothko. As there was a famous Soviet classics: "Personally, I Pasternak (Bulgakov, Solzhenitsyn ...) do not read, but absolutely do not approve of his work." Since I was here, too, brings children and youth memory, I deliberately do not reveal the authorship of this classic. Maybe I do it a little thought.
Personally, I do not like Rothko, do not understand and do not respect. But I confess that I have seen his paintings only in artistic albums. And the man who was little related to printing (at least the advertising), knows how to distort the color pictures in the chain of photographer-designer-printing. Unequivocally, that abstract paintings can be given the right judge, only seen the original. Even better - the originals, as well as a separate picture, taken out of context of the artist, sometimes surrounded by incompatible paintings, neighbors, alas, sometimes does not look trivial. To a large degree of abstraction is important texture of the canvas and lighting. As well as size does matter.

But why then can I say, never having seen the originals, that Rothko - not my artist? Probably because I love Vermeer more from reproductions, to the point where he could see only one known to me the original in the Vienna Kunsthistorisches Museum. Why am I unable to understand Turner before his recent exhibition at the Pushkin Museum? Why I am happy to look at reproductions or photographs of many, many, including the wide world of unknown artists? When the world-famous name does not overshadow the painting.
I agree with many - prices are high Rothko and the country. Of course, his big bright canvases look great in modern western interiors. Of course, his paintings in many ways be called design. Also, I'm not impressed by the Black Square "by Malevich. If reproduction Square - full suck, the language of youth, the original and not have to tremble. But you can at least respect for the primacy of Malevich in such a "slap in the face of Public Taste. I will not argue that another Soviet classic Mayakovsky wrote this sentence about Malevich. But I'm sure this secret!

Perhaps it was all done in the absence of the Third World War. If 50-100 years ago is really a rich man could buy a real masterpiece, proven over centuries, by the end of the 20 th century masterpieces are not selling - this cow is needed most. Vienna Museum will not sell a single Vermeer and the Hermitage Museum - Rembrandt. There is no war, so there is no military theft and mess. And the people in peacetime rich everywhere - and also requires the masterpieces themselves personally. What? Create new masterpieces! Now for a western man can "roll" all. And it is easy to believe that the occupation of Afghanistan by the Soviet Army in the 90 years was a grim demonstration of the "evil empire". But the war in Afghanistan in the early 2000's - now good for the democratic world. What can we say about such trifles as art? Advertising market, a budget - advertisers have mastered it. And already the bank soup Kempbl seems many normal people a masterpiece. And do not tell me about the fact that all the rich buyers and gallery owners can not be wrong. They seem to be quite different interests, but paradoxically, they converge in one - if the artist has a high price, then you should make every effort to price is not reduced. Personally, if I had reserves Rothko, would ask his friends from time to time to make a friendly barter - let them buy, and for me too in the other does not rust. Incidentally, once I provernul such a simple way, the truth in jest, and at a party, to please a good friend while drunk.

[Yaya]

But why do I say, never having seen the originals, that Rothko - not my artist? Probably because I love Vermeer more from reproductions, to the point where he could see only one known to me the original in the Vienna Kunsthistorisches Museum. Why am I unable to understand Turner before his recent exhibition at the Pushkin Museum?

because in order to understand them, do not tense up and have special knowledge, sorry: shy:

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

How do agree with many of my artist friends: "When there were critics, art dead."

It seems to be all long taldychat that you can teach a person to skillfully draw, but you can not make him a talented artist. What on God - that from God. Of any such special education or knowledge of secret reasons? Thinks so short that outsiders do not got wind?

I confess, reveal his secret:
I am not an artist, I like that from the Chukchi jokes: "Chukchi not the reader, Chukchi - a writer." I - Collector. I do not have a special thin. education because of their unlearned can write and talk all crap. I buy what I like, rather than art historians. What and confess honestly. My opinion novice and amateur can not hurt anyone. I did not hide his name. What is there to ask me ...
I remember there was a Shchukin (brother of the famous Shchukin), but also well-known, who believed in the early 20 th century one to art, after which Russia has lost only possible for a country of Vermeer paintings. But would believe his soul - did not have miscalculated. But believe gallerist - and sold very cheaply now, which later this authoritative art (like his name Bredius, nicknamed "the Pope") vparil fervor in America. Do not even left his native country, the birthplace of Vermeer.

You are not an art work? Do not get me wrong - I personally engaged in the construction, because I can and play the role of jester in the world of great art.

[Yaya]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir,

You are not an art work?

no

I personally do construction, because I can and play the role of jester in the world of great art.

nothing. Construction is now nothing to do, can and have fun

[Veronic]

Chernomashentsev Vladimir,

By the way, and you carefully read about American art?

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

YaYa,

Oh, and itching to say something to your attack. Or do I just imagine it? But I gave a pledge to try not to get personal. And even less to advertise their identity to avoid being branded as an upstart, who just a day on the site, and the risk of a guru to object, which was already on here hang out (speaking the language of youth).
  No wonder I put a meaningful signature, and in the Journal began with a confession. Oh, and complicated, my Russian soul - all right on FM Dostoevsky!

So try not to be rude and agree that the crisis in the construction can finally do themselves, their family, hobbies ... In all there are good. I remember how hard the crisis of 1998 clearly went to the benefit of the country - appeared in Russia Russia's production. And we no longer buy a Polish sausage, Polish, Chinese furniture, and down jackets. While there are many manufacturers already can give odds import. Especially in the case of construction materials and equipment.
Stop, stop, stop. Who here is interesting to hear about the crisis and the construction? The site should only talk about art. But, alas, nothing more I can say about Rothko. That's when I saw his originals, then, perhaps, betray, and their opinions. I have done it, you know.


Question of the case:
would be interesting to hear opinions from people who saw the Rothko paintings in the original and preferably not in the singular. Ou, Reply! Must be able to listen to another's opinion - not necessarily disagree, but at least listen. I am ready to do it right now.