At that living contemporary artists

[fross]

Сообщение от LCR

I'm still here is what I want to ask (I touched your words, though): I will not breed nepotism, but here, for example, Vladimir Yakovlev. His parents sold his work on the 5-7-9 district., Depending on the size. Lived nevertheless not rich - pictures are not sold every day, at least until the end of 70 years ..
Hence, Volodya was a weakling, could not. And now his work sells for 20,000 euros and more. So now he posthumously in strongman raised himself, it turns out? And what about your prediction, which he did should never be?
You know, God forbid artists with whom you communicate, "self-sufficient", "in which all is" to write, as Yakovlev.

For fun: at what point Soutine, Steel, many others have ceased to be bad artists and become good - in the same one where Dr. Barnes and Jacques Dyubur discharged them the first check? Once you're able to tumble, you can not find?

The question really is not simple. It turns out to live in prosperity can only be indulging the tastes of existing customers, but to make history, but creating something new that should change these preferences, and therefore has negligible chance of being well paid.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от fross

but go down in history, but creating something new that should change these preferences, and therefore has negligible chance of being well paid.

Log in history, too, not a fact, because it is not known, in connection with the development progress, which will turn civilization.

[LCR]

Сообщение от fross

The question really is not simple. It turns out to live in prosperity can only be indulging the tastes of existing customers, but to make history, but creating something new that should change these preferences, and therefore has negligible chance of being well paid.

No, it does not work. Neither Yakovlev, to which a monetary success came after his death, or Soutine, no steel does not go on about the tastes of customers, simply at some point, they "noticed" - and selfishly add: Thank God - without them, life would be immeasurably poorer for me .

[fross]

Сообщение от LCR

No, it does not work. Neither Yakovlev, to which a monetary success came after his death, or Soutine, no steel does not go on about the tastes of customers, simply at some point, they "noticed" - and selfishly add: Thank God - without them, life would be immeasurably poorer for me .

Who noticed? It is not customers whose tastes do not coincide with them? Noticed the unit managed to convince others of a few. Now their value is unquestionable, the taste of customers has changed (though not all)

[Кирилл Сызранский]

fross and LCR, you (pl.), the game is that? You are on the same say, but how would argue. So, yes? Durite our brother ... : D konyukturschika?

[Seriy]

I think the profession of the artist depreciated, t e pay artists less and less. Rembrandt quietly at fair fees for custom portraits bought a house in the city center. Can an artist today to buy a house in central Moscow, just by drawing portraits?
So I read on Artinvest that to enter the top 50 world's most successful launches in his career, he had to sell through auctions at 50 000 euro works.
That's ridiculous! The young novice broker on the stock exchange earning as much in 1 day! and no-paint canvases ...
Simply, there are people who like to paint, but it is on the yield somewhere in the bottom of the list of occupations ...

[eva777]

Сообщение от Seriy

Maybe this artist to buy a house in central Moscow, just by drawing portraits?

Maybe, maybe ... Shilov his name

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Сообщение от Veronic

Maybe .... Nikas Safronov

And Nikas not quite in the center, but the location is also quite good

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Сообщение от Veronic

artists amateurs

And what is that artists are?

[Veronic]

Сообщение от eva777

 
And what kind of artists such?

=Amateur amateur

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от eva777

And what kind of artists are?

Half a year trying to find out. But the participants from Ukraine, apparently, did not even understand my question. Sam then already guessed. It is in Ukraine so fans (not professionals) is called.

[Veronic]

amateur (French)
amateur (English)

I think that Ukraine has nothing to do with it, Cyril. I call it the first time in the West heard.