At that living contemporary artists

[Veronic]

Originally Posted by Posav

LCR, you are mistaken. Not having another profession artist more dependent on sales and working conditions than, for example, more and designer. If his paintings are not sold, he can simply stack them on the shelf, rather than bend under the conjuncture.

I understand that the design, possible variations to be a janitor, a mechanic, carpenter, etc. it means to be an artist, and paint portraits it means to be konyunkturschikom?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Veronic, but the question is:
  Artist paints pictures for sale, describes what is sold, that is bought. That only lives, for example.
After all, the grass should be in a green and sky-blue ...
Will he konyukturschikom?

[Veronic]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

Veronic, but the question is:
  Artist paints pictures for sale, describes what is sold, that is bought. That only lives, for example.
After all, the grass should be in a green and sky-blue ...
Will he konyukturschikom?

Cyril, let me answer with a quotation from the book Merezhkovsky "Resurrected Gods of Leonardo da Vinci

Quote the words of Leonardo
"I know some artists who shamelessly, for the amusement of the mob, razmalevyvayut picture of their gold and azure, arguing with arrogant impudence, that might work better than other artists, if they pay more. Oh, fools! Who prevents them from doing that something beautiful and proclaim: Here is the picture in such and such a price is cheaper, but this very market, "thus proving that they can work at any price."

Tell me, Kirill, who do you think must draw green grass or blue sky? Name the profession, please.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Veronic

Say, Kirill, who do you think must draw green grass or blue sky? Name the profession, please.

Of course, the artist. : D

[K-Maler]

Originally Posted by Veronic

Say, Kirill, who do you think must draw green grass or blue sky? Name the profession, please.

In Soviet times, none of the artists do not see anything to be ashamed to do something on the order and do well. At the Combine, where he heard orders to know who is better able to do. Someone was doing sketches for a box of chocolates or greeting cards, someone - for a book someone copy someone portraits, etc. Who does not know how - the watchman, etc. Today, instead of all this, everyone wants to landscapes for tourists ... The founders of this genre were, for example, brothers Canaletto ... You can do well, or treated as "decorative" genre ... okay ... But I'm trying to say about another ... Even in these plots can search for ... Then they should otherwise displayed and sold at different prices ... Artists produce very much, this is a problem ... Restrict the set? Same problem, many will lose their jobs ...

[Самвел]

I think today is simply no artists, there are certainly people who love their craft, as well fishing, they delabt with pleasure, but nothing sverhsshibatelnogo they have not, I think it's just today's time, at some point as a bud-a then the spirit left the creative people. If not, please give at least 10 names in any field of culture, I mean the years since the 90's, buyout, would clearly have been worthy of recognition. But 30 years have passed.

[K-Maler]

Originally Posted by Samvel

at some point as a bud-a spirit left the creative people. If not, please give at least 10 names in any field of culture, I mean the years since the 90's, buyout, would clearly have been worthy of recognition. But 30 years have passed.

You're right. Currently still working then, the previous generation, and it can still influence. But there is disappointment. Do not expect that from freedom ... There is a sense, nevertheless, discuss the exhibition, because they exposed the fact that the curators are selected. And this is now very strongly biased preferences. I know one "regular" show, where in order to highlight preferred the idea of specially chosen is the "environment" that it was not better, is chosen as the background. From the fairly good works, but "toothless" ... Do not spectacular and did not differ greatly manners (not SH). Catch a professional, artists are not aware of it. I saw both denied several spectacular works that would be necessary to notice, in favor of more modest sketches of the same artists. And do you trust "exhibited" review. Some artists in protest at longer displayed.

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by K-Maler

in order to highlight preferred the idea of specially chosen is the "environment" that it was not better, is chosen as the background. From the fairly good works, but "toothless" ... Do not spectacular and did not differ greatly manners (not SH). Catch a professional, artists are not aware of it.

What terrible things you are telling. This is a common practice?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Vladimir

This is a common practice?

This was during the Soviet period. At the exhibition next to the alleged tsentalnymi things two or three "generals" had strong things ordinary members of the SC did not take. "Why overload the exhibition?" "This is for later ..." etc. In both regions, in Moscow and St. Petersburg can and girlfriends?

[spigo]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

It's in the Soviet period was

Even M. Georgian. "Painters generals" were in charge of non-conformism exhibition schedule, the installation and so naturally in their favor.