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Old 24-04-2009, 10:55 Original language: Russian        #1
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This is not the end of life, this transition from one state to another. For the life of the deceased continues in memory of the living.



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dedulya37, if we talk about physiognomy, personally I'm surprised almost complete lack of lips. for people to express themselves artistically inclined, this is a very strange feature.
On the other hand, life is always bad ending - death. and AX is known



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dedulya37, if we talk about physiognomy, personally I'm surprised almost complete lack of lips. for people to express themselves artistically inclined, this is a very strange feature.
I agree, it looks very strange, if not more. Generally the game with death dangerous.



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dedulya37, if we talk about physiognomy, personally I'm surprised almost complete lack of lips. for people to express themselves artistically inclined, this is a very strange feature.
On the other hand, life is always bad ending - death. and AX is known
And why his lips? He necrophiliac!



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dedulya37, if we talk about physiognomy, personally I'm surprised almost complete lack of lips. for people to express themselves artistically inclined, this is a very strange feature.
On the other hand, life is always bad ending - death. and AX is known
WORLD IS NOT A LOT TO LOSE)))

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Konstantin, I think he is not very friendly with the head. IMHO.
And moreover, completely)))
In one interview, which took his Ukrainian journalist - before this (significant event), it warned, and had instructed. Tricky questions not to ask (and sometimes can not send) - on the skull with diamonds, not words, and so on.
It certainly all agreed)))
She was such a question - Tell Demian - who you are buying but Victor Pinchuk - he is so not a lot of thought and blurted out - as someone - Victor friends))))
It seems to me in this and the whole essence of the British.
The genius of it is that he managed to insert these oligarchs. Saw a shark is not his idea of what the actual cause - shark sawn is, in some English county, and made it about 10 years before the birth of Hirst. Well tablets - butterflies and all the tinsel, all sorts of - from childhood, we have seen in the anatomical cabinets. Now this may not be possible - Victor namutit that would be all anatomy was studied with the brilliant British talent.
Painting it - and it is something on the level of the child in primary school art school.

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But what is strange? One of the best art dealers of the world came to Kiev, communicates with people, shows the work, share experiences .. good health, and you nag (like an old grandmother).

that you are my dear)))

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Tjutchev, so I can not understand why Hirst you do not like, the talented "Kata" in the art business, but at the same time, the winner of Britain's most important awards for works of modern art -- Ternerovskoy Prize 1995 goda.I girls in the Ukraine he liked, t.ch.vse normal.


Prices in the market Demian Hirst supported media hype and false statements. Hermitage did not take any commitment to showing his work "For the love of God" - a platinum skull encrusted with brillyantami? [23.12.07][To the article adds new information: see UPDATE, UPDATE 2]

According to the Independent, in January next year will scandalous book economist Don Thompson, "Shark, stuffed with $ 12 million, dedicated, including analysis of pricing in the market of Demian Hirst works. In the book, in particular, the assumption is that the "sale" brillyantovogo skull "For the love of God," for £ 50 million of a group of investors, which included the artist himself, Hurst was "introduced" the sum of £ 12 million (24%). This conclusion is based on information The Art Newsletter, claims that the work was proposed £ 38 million, however, the author emphasizes the crucial role of media in shaping the price of an artist's work, as well as the mysticism of the possibility of such a deal because, according to the editor of all of the as The Art Newspaper Christine Cruz, "formally skull was not sold." Suspicion causes and persistent refusal to comment on the part of Hurst and his partners in the transaction.

Investigating the mechanisms of art market, Thompson considers the process of sublimation of the price of Hirst's dealers and auction houses. In particular, he noted that when Charles Saatchi who ordered Hirst's famous shark in formaldehyde for £ 50,000, wanted to sell it, the rumor of a follow-up from the Tate Modern offer price of $ 2 million was also noted that Larry Gagosian, Saatchi selected as a mediator the transaction, refused the museum, selling shark manager of the New York hedge fund Steven Cohen for $ 12 million Tate subsequently rejected the whole story.

A similar situation was observed with the work of "the love of God." When she was put on the market for £ 50 million, the news spread throughout the press and led to higher prices in the market Hirst. Two weeks after the news of the "skull" cabinet "Lullaby Spring", containing colored pills, was sold for £ 9.6 million at auction, making Hirst, though not for long, the most expensive contemporary artists. Recognition that the "skull" failed to sell even after all the accompanying advertising (according to even the designers at Lewis), would be tantamount to disaster for the market works by the artist.

Because the fact of "selling" has generated a lot of rumors about what is really the deal never took place, prodyuserami Hurst attempted to smooth over the situation. They announced that one of the conditions of sale of the work was the organization of the owners of a traveling exhibition "skull" on museums in the world for several years. Then the product intended to resell. Nevertheless, none of the museum did not respond to this ad. However, in early October, Bloomberg published an article by John Varoli, who did find the museum, who agreed to show work: "... The skull will be shown as part of an international project of Contemporary Art 20/21 .. [State Hermitage Museum], which starts at the end October - said authorized [Hermitage] Spokesperson Helen Getmanskaya. " Notably, however, that this information was far from reality. According to the participants of Project 20/21, at the time of this writing, no obligation on the demonstration of "skull" Hermitage itself did not take. Moreover, judging from everything, Elena Getmanskaya not make such statements about the "skull". Nevertheless, the news that the Hermitage would like to expose the "skull" in March 2008, obletelo entire western press, hitting the above-mentioned book, Thompson, as well as being able to keep afloat still threatened the market prices Hirst: investors glimmer of hope for the further growth of interest in the artist, as Russian buyers are among the most gullible and generous fans of his work.

Meanwhile, Thompson imposing on the doubts and tseny brillyantov involved in "the love of God." According to Hirst the cost is £ 12 million, however, according to art dealer Richard Polsky from San Francisco, it can not exceed £ 5 million: "The way the prices of the skull Hirst is just a way to attract attention - that's the function Skull

According to David Lee, redaktora magazine Jackdaw, the market prices of contemporary art are maintained by dealers, purchasing their own work. "Everything that happens seems as though people are trying to manipulate the market by raising prices. We are not talking about the art - he said - This is buffoonery, as in the art world would not stand any other market. Here all efforts aimed at to be on everyone's mind, and that your actions have had a decent response. The work of those who got the attention of the press and television, are record prices. All this has nothing to do with art. "

UPDATE2 [31/12/07]: In connection with the above-quoted in the publication of state John Varoli, we try to contact the author. He confirmed that he spoke with Helen Getmansky on the phone. In conversation, she reported that the Hermitage Museum plans to show the work of Damian Hirst's "For the love of God" in May 2008. The quality of telephone service was excellent, and Varoli distinctly heard every word. Varoli stressed that in this situation is just a reporter, bringing to the attention of public officials say the Hermitage Museum. And that Hetman told him on October 6, exactly in line with information received on 5 October in Kiev from Damien Hirst. So when writing articles could be no doubt allegations hetman, which only Confirm that Damien Hirst said Varoli

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C Hurst just the opposite it is not abused and bought a lot of money, contemporaries just ready for "new art" affirming that his purchases, vykladyvaya large amounts .. stories differ.


Damien Hirst set a new price record with an investment banker in formaldehyde "[22/10/08]
 

After a partisan struggle, waged by anonymous investoromi work, "Oh, a pancake" (Oh Shit) went for £ 2.5 billion thing, representing the employee (razzorivsheysya) company Merrill Lynch in a solution farmalina proved to be the most expensive in the history of banking business. There are rumors that the work was acquired for the closure of private exhibitions and is unlikely to be is shown by the public or auditors in the near future. Another piece - "Day of wages", consisting of the empty envelopes, which were expected to bestow some five thousand employees, was acquired by the administration of Price Waterhouse Coopers for a price far beyond that requested.
    Art critic Mathias Van-Lear Hirst congratulated on its decision to sell all these works, relating to his period of "financial meltdown".
... Meanwhile, Hirst's agent said he was satisfied with the price ... "While we are concerned, where you can reliably to attach a check for that amount"

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Damien Hirst once again shocked the world of art-business [22/10/08]

Immediately after the mock auction in a particularly larg size, has brought $ 200 million for the canned animals and other items that are "must have" in the collection, Damien Hirst, not wasting time in vain, to declare another ambitious project.

Building on its recent commercial success, Mr. Hirst shocked the art world (consisting of himself, galleries, White Cube, his two buyers of billionaires and thousands of mediocre imitators), declaring that his next exhibition will present only an art object - namely, his itself.

While the details of works tentatively called "naked greed" remain unclear, Hurst said that he would like to put up for public auction zafarmalinennoe his body. It is not clear whether he himself farmalinit or prefer to work with a German professor Gunther von Hagen to be used to achieve better plastinizatsiyu rezultata.

In any case, Hirst has hinted that inkrustiruet brillyantami one of the parts of his body, thus surpassing by urnovnyu own the same work - $ 100 million platinum brillyantovy skull. Asked what body parts he will encrust, Hurst showed the crowd the middle finger.

"The Future - excellent for all, - he said, adding, - only, perhaps, except me."
"Some so-called art critics have dared to suggest that I'm vain, superficial, mediocre character, concerned only with money and themselves. My next exhibition oprovergent all these conjectures. Hurst grabbed a look at a journalist who asked - as he was later going to pull itself out of the solution. "Obviously, you do not understand either art or an artist. I give her all the creativity that I have. I do not think it will be after the show. I'm paying people to do what I say and I suggest that you do also "

On the question of whether the White Cube or Sotheby's engaged in selling the work, Hirst said: "Be realistic. My life goes on. And how about yours?" He reported that his body with canned inskrustirovannym brillyantami middle finger will be put up on eBay with a reserve of £ 500,000 million

Russian tycoon, art collector and oil magnate and arms dealer Serge Zhugrev, they say, was willing to buy marinated /plastinirovannogo Hirst for his private collection. "It would be great to keep Hirst at his spiritual home, money-hungry Moscow" - a vague smell of vodka Zhugrev said. But the Russian is a serious competitor. There are rumors that the Vatican is using the services of a secret mediator will not allow themselves to beat.

Cardinal von Riesling, head of a complete set of the Vatican art collections, recently commented on the deeply religious order Hirst. "From us just escaped his" Golden Calf "and" Angel pig "at Sotheby's. But this time we are ready. We have 3,500 nuns from developing countries, arrayed in a row to put the bid on eBay at the last minute, and I already opened his account with PayPal ". The Cardinal won Riesling added that Hirst was Christ-like figure in contemporary art world and that its spiritual value can be fully appreciated only after his death. "Imagine how irresistibly towards us pilgrims, if we put the canned body Hirst with brillyantovym finger, ascension to heaven, in the case in Bazelike St. Peter ..." - Indistinctly uttered smelling roses Riesling.

A friend of Hearst, neprezvoydenny illusionist David Blaine, predicted that if the Vatican will become "naked greed", he will be able to do so that she will disappear within three days, leaving the Vatican with an empty showcase. "And do not be surprised if Hearst will soon be discovered paparazzi somersault with Galilean harlot with the initials MM. At this time there is nothing left Thain, believe me" - predicted Blaine.

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Unprecedented in the history of Demian Hirst's auction of works scheduled for September 15-16 [13/09/08]

Covers the international English magazine The Times
 released in September, 2008 (Tyler Green)
Almost immediately after the announcement of the unprecedented Damien Hirst Sotheby's on September 15, which exposed more than 200 papers in 2008 goda, Hirst's dealer, the London gallery White Cube, opened the press about problems with the demand for works by the artist. Gallery has allowed publication of The ArtNewspaper familiar with the relevant accounting documents, according to which its stores remains unsold more than 200 works by Hirst for an amount exceeding $ 200 million includes 34 work with butterflies the 2005-2008 period at a price of $ 300,000 to $ 4 million, 35 spiral paintings 2005 - 2008 period ($ 800,000); seven paintings with circles 2006-2008 ($ 600,000 to $ 1.9 million) and six pharmaceutical cabinets ($ 200,000 - $ 5 million), one of which, "The agony of St. Jude" 2002-2003, according to the -all remain unsold in 2003.

As you know, Mr. Hurst did not create his works himself, preferring to use the services of assistants. Due to the relative simplicity of execution, the work done by them with enviable speed, chtomoglo lead to a glut in the market in the absence of a sufficient number of buyers. Through its unprecedented nature and obvious scandalous upcoming auction poses a marketing ploy, something resembling a story with Brillyantovym skull, which sold well and remains a big question. The fact that in practice the market the artist usually has no right to put to open auction is the number of papers in bypassing their dealers (in this case, White Cube and Gagosian) sa. This is due partly to the fact that the successful manipulation of demand in interesah of the same artist (and maintaining the balance of the price), the dealer must retain full control over the market. Any sale at auction - a certain kind of risk, especially when exposed to the trades is the number of works. The failure of the upcoming Sotheby's auction could have an impact on its dealers, provoking a drop in the total price of Hirst's work. The conflicting expectations of the outcome of the auction affected by the recent devaluation of shares of Sotheby's by 8%. Perhaps investors are based on the assumption that all who are still in need of the animals in formaldehyde for disposable prices, they have already purchased. Although there is room for doubt always.

Given the nature of the art market and the history of Brillyantovym skull on art sales market may be carried out in the absence of precise identification of the buyer. Damien Hirst is the richest artist in the history of Britain, whose fortune is estimated at $ 200 million to $ 500 million Some argue that he has spent about $ 200 million just for its own collection of art collection. Simultaneously, with the successful outcome of the upcoming auction of 223 works will be spent $ 117 million A small addition to the financial condition, but all the same.




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Yaya, I'm a little physiognomist. I have a feeling that this man will end badly.
dedulya37 you certainly physiognomist and astute man, and those who see in Hurst artist, dealer and businessman, people, and instilled self-doubt, what are the majority. They all and calculated, but the initiator of the action he considers them to be dumb masses yearning for shows, and the more disgusting spectacle, so calmly diffident people - "horror! - Well, it's not me. " A typical phenomenon in the atmosphere of crisis hysteria. And the credibility of assets Pinchuk makes diffident people to lick all that they offer, that does not exclude the fact that he himself Pinchuk please others with his tongue. A Hurst - puppet, and as you correctly noted in his face is not distorted intelligence - bad finish.



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The second day I read this whole topic, and as a result - imbued with warm feelings for our Hirst.

No, before taking it as an absolute phenomenon in the global contemporary art, has already taken its high (in many ways) the place and even watched the price (maybe in something affordable and nice looking to invest). Then, looking at photo essay at the beginning of the topic, was impressed with the skulls of large canvases ...

But now, after reading the topic, which climbed mediocrity, banality, primitive, I just has a deep respect and appreciation to Hirst, will understand and think about his work. Bravo, Hurst! Encore!
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Thank you, very interesting exhibition and Hurst looks normal, serious art dealer ... In Ukraine, more buyers will obviously .. great work.



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Eugene, I really liked too many skulls. a "pill" it, of course ..: confused:



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Yaya, thanks for that cheers us interesting photographs from the exhibition Hirst. The market price of skulls on the second picture - about $ 3 million work of comparable class recently sold at Phillips in estimate: 3.4 million (but then did not sell). See http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...???&page=4 message number 39

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