Russian or western?

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Сообщение от Sergeyitch

Not so simple.

And here I agree with you.
This philistine vzglyat antique trade in art objects and collectibles.

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Сообщение от bend

I do not know, like art dealers, and securities market - this is normal. At least, it does not require the purchase of advertising time world channels for the same $ 100 million

I do not know how the securities market, and the art market g. .. least for millions at auction buy, it will remain a city .... : D
And it will have you forever.
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Сообщение от heir

So we are doing it. Only thinner broth.

Where is this "we", on which auctions? In St. Petersburg Auctions of art? Or you are talking about Moscow? What?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

The report of the heir
So we are doing it. Only thinner broth.

Where is this "we", on which auctions? In St. Petersburg Auctions of art? Or you are talking about Moscow? What?

These are common tools to promote products on the market in order to extract the maximum possible benefit. In fact, the number, and the art market.

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Сообщение от bend

Commission auction up to 30%. This "white". Imagine how tempting - would drive the price "on air"?

But in principle - it is very simple. Nobody did not hide the fact that the auction come largely pre-prepared buyers. Including - and "someone" trained. Especially when it comes to $ 100 million is several billion rubles. among other things.

If there is a challenge to raise prices on some product category (eg, artists Zanzibar) - enough for most to buy yourself a million two or three more or less literate work, but so that the price "whiten" through the auction. With a starting price of the 5 th is shocking. And - the shaft is inevitable.

I do not know, like art dealers, and securities market - this is normal. At least, it does not require the purchase of advertising time world channels for the same $ 100 million

On the stock market make it much easier because
  a) the absolute uniformity of product,
b) it disproportionately liquidity,
c) sufficient funding from the surface of market agents and
d) commission insignificance compared with practiced in the art market.

Actually, this is the function of market-makers - to raise or lower the rate, to build corridors, in general, deftly directed handicraftsman alone - a Stock Operator, to the bitter end

Is done and at auctions, but such naive attempts to enrich not often give positive results.

In my opinion, much easier - and cheaper - to do this on direct sales.

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Сообщение от heir

This is a common mechanism to promote product to the market in order to extract the maximum possible benefit.

Such a "mechanism"?

Сообщение от bend

If there is a problem to raise prices on some product category (for example, artists Zanzibar) - enough for most to buy yourself a million two or three more or less literate work, but so that the price " whiten "through the auction. With a starting price of the 5 th is shocking. And - the shaft is inevitable.

This is not a "mechanism" and "fantasy" man is not in the subject.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Such a "mechanism"? This is not a "mechanism" and "fantasy" man is not in the subject. ...
I love such "specific" smart answers ...

Theme speculation blew http://style.rbc.ru/person/2007/11/23/40232.shtml one car park employee. And his clients are all too concrete.

Сообщение от heir

So we are doing it. Only thinner broth.

There was a view, Sorry, just not Y us, and for us. We're still in the topic "Russian or western. It's still at least 2 pictures needed.

Сообщение от Tit

Sorry, this is not a subject, of course ... Just in my office in the office bright. I hung up the schedule, properly made out, so beautiful ... Drawings, quite new - only a 50-60x's. They're poor, through three months began to disappear before our eyes. Sorry that something hiding in the closet, something has given in good hands ...

Or they were before something doused, or you have evaporation in the office, chemical, or else, at worst, had an anti-reflective glass with UV-layer to apply. Generally, the graph above the fireplace, even for 200 years, hung like. A century later laundered normally. : cool:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I do not know how the securities market, and the art market g. .. least for millions at auction buy, it will remain a city .... : D And it will remain you forever.

I would even say that it generally makes sense to destroy, and then flood the available gallery of very high quality fakes. For example. What, incidentally, do not do with CB.

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

Not all that simple. ... Well, etc.

Not only difficult but also costly. But then a lot of profit. As they say, in an age of high technology nothing is impossible. : shy:

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Сообщение от bend

The theme of speculation blew http://style.rbc.ru/person/2007/11/23/40232.shtml a car park employee. And his clients are all too concrete.

I read on your link.
Larry Gagosian: I was born and raised in Los Angeles. After university, replaced a lot of work trying to make ends meet. I remember myself: Parking in the parking lot worked to live. I did not think that ever going to engage in such business - buying and selling works of art, it's very rare and unusual type of business, it must be well-versed. I did not understand anything in this area and had no idea what the artist. My life has never been associated with art. (c)
Are you Gagosian call "Parking cars? Well, well ... : D

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bend, thanks for the link.
  I liked this "Parking." But I'm afraid that some of the domestic art dealers, and it would probably start and finish.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Did you Gagosian call "Parking cars? Well, well ...

But man has no sense of humor, even if you are crack - and never will. Late ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Are you Gagosian ... ? : D

So too if he himself does not hesitate to call it that. Not all the luck of birth.

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Сообщение от bend

Well, really, if he himself does not hesitate to call it that. Not all the luck of birth.

This is an interview I had read here on the forum.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
And you recommend this theme, if you are really interested in the art market and art business.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????

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Kirill, thank you, right, the first night - for you. I have all those links and did not spread, because at the same forum and found them. That is, I already read.

Otuda and emerged, in particular my doubts. So for example:

Сообщение от LCR

The first of the three can be a creation Kunna (albeit with the same success it may belong to the virtual cutter heads 80 percent of sktualnogo art).
Second - in my opinion, very good - looks like a Calder.
Third - like Louise Bourgeois.

Now just find that in all three cases I got a finger, say, in the eyes.

That's my reputation and finita

Master, as you would expect, I do not go to such events: p

My views, as you might guess - are built on the axiom of anarchy allegedly ordered and the current art market, especially - in Russia, where a convertible currency - and then no.

And actually the reason for the activation was a banal desire to expand the range of his property. I fear for the potential loss for money. Part of the existing.

The only really argued throughout the dispute the argument of LCR on the "old masters" (too lazy to look for a link already, but you are there, and many "thanks" is set, probably, remember), I, incidentally, is embodied in live "practically. Only podtvrdiv their doubts. This, recall, is a "long" money.

So. Insight without insiders. : shy:


PS Please do not find fault with "axiom anarchy". This is not a claim for the opening of a new style, and colloquial epithet. This is my language is. To mental illness, k.s.v. and so on. - Not applicable. By origin I am computer engineer, system analyst. I love not only to analyze but to synthesize, as well as to express more precisely. Was brought up on ZHvaneckogo. And now try to comprehend the harmony and long texts. Generally not for personal gain but for fun.

P.s. p.s.
After a hike at the weekend the museum, I am the way, aesthetically inclined still to Russian. But very superdorogo. Those "yesterday, but five" many were available ...