Russian or western?

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Сообщение от bend

And I say - no such prices.

Pritenzii to the speaker.

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Сообщение от LCR

Now, his Russian raise. They stop to buy - what will happen?

That's my subconscious mind the same question interested. According to my notions, if only the Russian knows - that he, in fact, has no international fame?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Pritenzii to the speaker.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...mp;postcount=2 so because of this and started.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Russian? Problematic ...

Right.
And I told you about a French artist with Russian roots talking.
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Сообщение от bend

According to my notions, if only the Russian knows - that he, in fact, has no international fame?

The whole world knows.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

The whole world knows.

I was imprecise. It would be more accurate to say - speak, ie assessed at its true worth and the amount paid accordingly. And then as a PR Russia's government turns out - to their respected - in New York have placed articles.

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Сообщение от bend

It would be more accurate to say - speak, ie assessed at its true worth and the amount paid accordingly.

When he was there to buy full swing, here is his name as an artist no one knew.
He thundered seriously in the early 60's., And in 69 died.

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I do not mean this particular example. Information was gathered only from the information itself. See, the question: in Moscow the price - excellent. Especially in Russian. Foreign - the day the fire is not hard to find. Although, like in life, then it many times more.

And all because - only in recent years. There is a suspicion that artificially clocked price. And me - nothing to cover up the hole. That is, if I am now (even in a crisis prices) to buy in Moscow - a high probability that it turns out that this was the peak of the market.

And it can be compared new works. None of what 16-17-18 century in Moscow and in Russia as a whole in general, no speech. Neither of Russian or of foreign.

At the same time

Сообщение от LCR

For consistency, in my opinion, it is best to buy an old European masters (you can schedule, and the idea that everything is wildly expensive, wrong) - it is absolutely not a speculative market that is growing slowly but constantly, or the art of the late 19 - the first half of 20 centuries. It is sure that these things do not go down in price.

people of European education do not hesitate to boldly give worthwhile and argued advice to the beginner. Thank you.

Actually, for the sake of these different opinions and open this topic. I just a few hours much understood. Live communication - a great thing. Thanks to everyone responded. Do any of these as I find this branch and also read. See the new responses.

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And in general, by the way, is it true that the French are more expensive in France, the Americans - in America, the Dutch - in the Netherlands, the Russian - in Russia, etc.?

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Italians seem to be more expensive than it is outside of Italy?

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Well distracted ... account lost ... must begin anew ... six quadrillion ...
And do not believe it - all the money in the investment component made by buying only Russian. Native means. In response to the soul and time ...

By the way, keep in mind that the Central Bank of Russia - is a Limited Liability Company.
"The state is not liable for the obligations of the Bank of Russia, as well as the Bank of Russia - for the obligations of the state."
http://www.cbr.ru/today/status_functions/

Possessing rubles in soums, which pleased to say out loud, it is worth remembering, and limited liability produced them.

"In God We Trust" - this is extremely non-Russian format of mutual obligations, the expression of whom are money.

Is the rate of the ruble return on assets valued in absolute terms? Probably not, and for the future in 20 years - probably neither. Way in the subject matter something.

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bend, look.

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Polyakov - 850000

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????

The average Polyakov large cost about 450 thousand euros.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
And compare with the "Previous sales and prices.
http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/158...=П&page=7

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Сообщение от bend

I'm just a few hours much understood.

Join your assessment But your "shooting in Macedonian" had its value.
You are beautifully made theme - not hard-nosed, with humor and intrigue.
It was nice to see you in contact.

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Сообщение от bend

And in general, by the way, is it true that the French are more expensive in France, the Americans - in America, the Dutch - in the Netherlands, the Russian - in Russia, etc.?

This was true before, now the Art Market to internationalize, and the situation has changed somewhat. Do not forget about the big auction houses that determine the price for the whole world.

Your assertion remains true especially for some parts of American Art (American realism - Hopper, Wyeth) - is not even in the fact that these artists are in the United States more expensive, they are almost impossible to find in Europe - and for minor local artists, such as a some little-known French landscape late 18 th century. France will sell a little more expensive. It is here possible pleasant surprises: Klimt and Schiele were especially before the end of 1970. artists exclusively for the domestic Austrian market - and suddenly, boom! Klimt is one of the most expensive artists of the world, Schiele, too. German expressionism is not up to such a long time, too, was seriously underestimated. Actually, I think that artists such as Emil Nolde still have a serious investment potential - but they will not buy any for 1000, nor for 10000 euro.

That's something like this - this can be a long talk, and I'm a man razgovorchivyy.Zatykayu a fountain: p

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http://browse.sothebys.com/?&cat=1&e...sale_id=L09631
by the way.

Perhaps, or at Sotheby's only Lochy work, antiques or just cheaper, or the Russian market is very overheated. One of the three.
: eek:

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That's something like this - this can be a long talk, but I'm a talker. Stop your fountain: p

Do not stop. : o
Your information is valuable because it is more like the truth than even the Bloomberg News.


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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

bend, look.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...light =???????
And compare with the "Previous sales and prices.
http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/158...=П&page=7

AI: Can you say that in 2009 prices TEFAF adjusted downward?
M. M.: According to our observations, the prices rose, but not fallen. According to the old masters prices have not changed (we have something to ask), the Russian diaspora, too, in general, nothing has changed. Generally, the old masters feel fine. Perhaps the greatest number of sales was just there (namely the number of sales is an indicator of health).
...
AI: What is your forecast for the coming April's "Russian auction"? How do you rate the quality of the proposals of the leading auction houses and claimed estimate?
MM: I think it will sell well, but not better than last time. ... But my overall outlook is this: will now buy the best things for quite a lot of money, but for less than before.

Russian "nezarubezhe" I understand, even in rubles took off about 50%?

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And there is a suspicion that the same Maastrihe soedney on the street can be purchased at the usual gallery almost the same as that of Sotheby's, only two or three times cheaper? May, of course, the condition worse or something ... But in terms of authenticity doubts unlikely at low prices then.

By and large, if the next 20 years is not going to sell - then at the auction or the auction - in general, any difference does not matter. If only it most?