Expertise

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Firebird

Kirill, I'm in this skirmish with Eugene

Altercation and was not, it was puzzling on my part. I could not and still can not understand some "hints" Eugene.
My request directly to answer went unanswered, but I'm in this manner it was used. It seems the answer, then nothing. Thus, regular Ponty and a shadow on the fence "... : D
By the way, I somehow was also similar to your situation.
The client brought to his expert, she looked the picture, "motanula mane, the transaction occurred and the client has already suffered his subject sit for examination.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

OlgaV, I do not personally addressed to the author of the topic. I do not know, I will ask general.
Once again: I got to the position of a hypothetical consumer of this service. For example, provincial dealer. And I realized that this is a normal variant.

Сообщение от OlgaV

Well, I called and asked.

OlgaV, I did not call, but the prices already know, and I dare you to calm, they are very, in my opinion, humanity. With all the "knowledge" of an expert.

[Eriksson]

Gentlemen I'm not sure that's the buzz? In humans, there is always a need for fast and reliable intermediary, is not burdened by heavy "backpack" behind in the form of a large consulting firm. If there is a niche in the market, those who took it - good fellows. If not crooks, of course ...: confused:
Provincial dealers, apparently tightly useful. And what about people in distant foreign countries? It is no secret that there be "Russian" expert virtually impossible. If there is no mention of work in the catalogs - will not even talk. Large auction houses agree to take a look at only the pictures, "over one million."
And the issue of import - remove work in Russia for examination, and make the most expertise, it is sometimes more abruptly "binomial" ...

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от OlgaV

For everyone else - it is important to discuss the issue of guarantees.

     Sorry, did not understand what safeguards? The mediator takes a picture and work with it ... I need assurance that he will not disappear with it (along with a picture)? That's what you mean? And if something happens to the picture, say, worth $ 500,000? Who is responsible? And, most importantly, what?

[Antikvar]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Sorry, did not understand what safeguards? The mediator takes a picture and work with it ... I need assurance that he will not disappear with it (along with a picture). That's what you mean? And if something happens to the picture, say, worth $ 500,000? Who is responsible? And, most importantly, what?

No one takes your thing, it shall be for examination in the expert facility in your presence (if your desire to attend). A copy of the document of surrender remains with you.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Antikvar

No one takes your thing, it shall be for examination in the expert facility in your presence (if your desire to attend). A copy of the document of surrender is you.

     Then everything is clear, a colleague.

[Сима]

Antikvar, I still clearly not all. Explain, please.
1. What is an expert institution? In Grabar, VNIIRA, Art Cons., And something to them. Tretyakov. You mentioned museums and list them. So where rent something in the act? If the museums, and legally, then they are forbidden to do an examination on the forms and make general examination. If the keeper takes the left, it does not go through the book, the thing has no numbers, no one will act, the keeper may run into check and scandal, the thing taken away, etc. Risk and the keeper and owner.
2. If a hypothetical copy of the document of surrender is the owner (by the way, why the copy - the acts of surrender now do on the computer, all copies signed by both originals and prints on all this) - that being there 100%anonymity. The act, in my opinion, better to have its name, it should be made to passport data dealer's name and address. And without this will be a strange act. Or you as a "museum curator" did not know?
And, gentlemen, I want to clarify that the abstract of "experts" in our country are almost nonexistent. This is the west is the expert "mandarins" - ie authors catalogs of any author. We have such units. We judge - a keeper who has access to more funds the standards of this artist. All the other characters from the museum, who is taken for examination, or to make examination of books and catalogs, which they, perhaps more than you have, or should ask the custodian to show him something. And it can not increase the price, because involved more than one person. So it is something expected?
And a lot of questions. I think you can answer? I did not ask names.

When some of my "expertise vacation" run out, and then I sign up under the nickname
"Konkurent".

[Antikvar]

In the public forum the details of the designated themes not publicly discussed. Answers to the questions a potential client can get in person.

Thank you for your feedback.

[Сима]

I also think that in the public forum topic can be closed.
But very interesting, what are the results in. "Potential customers! Tell least lichku, please. I, honestly, not from OBKHSS.

[Art Consulting]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What's the problem, then?
What is "what is wrong?


And what is "such activities"?
There was a proposal to become a link between the consumer and expert institution.
What's criminal?
Explain who can. Intelligibly, without meaningful hints. Straight.
I personally do not see anything wrong in this mediation.
I like nemoskvichu, such a proposal interesting.
Yes, I'm curious to agree in advance on the phone to come and touch on the same day to the appropriate specialist, to show him the object, to hear his opinion of first impression, it is reasonable to do, whether or not the general examination, discuss the questions that interested me in the examination, discuss the timing etc.
I confess, I can do myself, but often I have in Moscow because of this stay, do a lot of calls, spend time at meetings, etc.
When functioning properly mediator can, in my opinion, this whole routine, unnecessary, nerve-racking, to avoid.
No, I do not understand you, Eugene, Tjutchev ...

Who? Why?

Do not want to interfere with another's business, but frankly, I do not see any problems of access to a body of experts. :-) Almost any institution and the State Tretyakov Gallery and Grabar and VNIIR, calm and always take visitors to consult. The only problem, for example Irina Gerashchenko may not be there (vacation, business trip, a cold God forbid), all you have my phone. I can call any expert and know how he feels and whether he was on the ground at a certain time, and completely free :-)
And if you need to leave work and go away, it can be done in VNIIR, GRBARYAH or we (if such TG). We can leave the job and ask just to show the work of an expert without a full range of works, there is this service USD 7500. Natural conclusion, we can not give you, but the expert will write a short opinion on the back of photos. If you later need to be complex - please. :-)