It seems whether KA Somov?

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Eugene

I fully agree with A.P.Ostroumovoy-Lebedeva, but there is another view :..." known to us of this time Somov (1925-1939 (EA) indicates that the artist has not lost his talent and not exhausted their vozmozhnostey.Odnako his works became more prosaic skuchnee.Za abroad and his work has lost the most significant feature of the specific jokes, but tell him to sort of romance and poetry, the unique spicy aromat.Somov remains a good artist, but has ceased to be " Somov "..."
  From the book Constantine Somov.avt: Irina Pruzhan.Moskva 1972.g. (page 109).

             Understand, Eugene, on ideological assumptions that time the artist, who went abroad, could not take place on foreign soil. About these artists either did not want to know or do not know. I wonder how many works of foreign Luba period saw Irina Pruzhany? I think not many. Even if you saw hardly had the opportunity to be sincere in their judgments. I prefer to believe unbiased art critics, but his eyes and the people who witnessed the creative life of the Luba abroad. It is known that Konstantin throughout his life maintained a demanding and regretted the wasted held each day, although these days, I think he was not much, because artist left behind a huge musical legacy.
      Eugene, I do not really understand how you can compare the two portraits, executed in different techniques. This portrait may not be the work of Luba, simply because there is no poetry. Pushkin wrote poems in different genres, but it's always Pushkin. Even when it was a squib. So always Somov Somov. Even when it is a portrait in three quarters.

[Jan]

Many thanks to everyone who takes part in the debate initiated by me.
I consider it necessary to complement my original post some details associated with this picture. They may have something to clarify and distinguished colleagues will make any more comments.
Painting - without a frame and stretcher, oil on canvas, of course. Canvas size - 53h61; image size - 44h53. Along the perimeter of the canvas - the marks of the nails, the characteristic "residual" tension and straight folds in the places where the fits to the edges of the canvas stretcher. The paint layer - dense, with more than a dozen horizontal cracking (cracelures in the usual sense, it is not called), clearly acting on a break. The picture is damaged: in the lower left corner, and partly to the left edge of the image crumbled to the ground-based paint because of the inflection point (I think the picture was lying in a foot, and angle slightly favored the perimeter of the foot). Above, on either side of the head depicted a character (in the forehead and neck) - Two rough cutting holes approximately 2 and 3 mm. That have arisen, no doubt because of the attempts to erase the inscription on the back of the canvas. The inscription was made by something blue (in indelible ink?), Not read, can be very difficult to disassemble only the individual letters (Cyrillic, the printed pattern) - "P. FTAP ... L ... ", but for the reliability of a reading, I can not answer. The reverse side of the canvas - "izabellinogo color, with dark transverse trace in the upper part of the removal of the notorious inscription, a few dark spots and stands out as the watermark, outline of the figure. According to preliminary estimates of specialists, with whom I consulted, the picture without ponovleny, could be written in 20-40 years., Signature - is done on a dry layer, but, as claimed, not later than the origin.
In addition to the current debate raises questions: what is the essence of the artist's conception (if it is not Somov) - to write the thing, really, so unlike the somovskuyu, and to make his signature? If it was the desire to write a fake, then why the forger did not show a minimum of creativity or, at least, meticulous craftsmen to the manner, compositions, etc., to bring its work to somovskoy? And in general - whether forged Somov painting during his lifetime and in the first decade after the death?
P.S. A clear and large photo pictures can a few days to send to interested consultants to e-mail.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от Jan

If it was the desire to write a fake, then why the forger did not show a minimum of creativity or, at least, meticulous craftsmen to the manner, compositions, etc., to bring its work to somovskoy? And in general - whether forged Somov painting during his lifetime and in the first decade after his death?

That is a very correct observation. In the second picture even more clear that pohozh.I lips are read not narrow ... Somov thought that not enough is able to paint portraits and trained at some of the familiar and "myself" by pastel, chtby not write everything from nature, believed that it was "painful" for him and for nature. He attached great importance to registered portraits and discussed it in his letters. If he wrote Brankevicha this would have been aware of the correspondence. And the figure shows that Brankevich slightly bulky, type a more complete person. The portrait of the same pose with the tilt forward and tense, as it should be when it is necessary to draw a ... On the reverse side is not clear, perhaps someone wanted to put a name such as "Portrait of an old man," and he said that's impossible ...

[Дилетант]

Again - " Looking through the old pages ."
Slight cold and bloody curiosity brought me back to the archive jungle. And I came across these wilds for discussion " Luba last self-portrait ."
As proof of their own assumptions are true masters of self-portraits , all evaluated and compared : the shape of the nose, shape of the face , lips ...
People! A guy on the discussed portrait - egghead and BALD !
 A Somov to end kept his good and noble gray hair . Until the last is to admire. Clever. I am a geek . Esthete.
And the portrait discussed - accountant Votruba . Modestly dressed, not artistic, not charismatic. Good honest accountant. In poorly sewn costume and slurred tie.
Well, about such trifles , as the level of execution of the portrait , even not want to talk .
But why should I have to write about it ? " Cinema is already - was over ."

[Борис Кон]

Accountant Votruba - congenial.

70 unforgettable.

[zarajara]

Сообщение от Amateur , 2307011

Again - " Looking through the old pages ."
Slight cold and bloody curiosity brought me back to the archive jungle. And I came across these wilds for discussion " Luba last self-portrait ."
As proof of their own assumptions are true masters of self-portraits , all evaluated and compared : the shape of the nose, shape of the face , lips ...
People! A guy on the discussed portrait - egghead and BALD !
 A Somov to end kept his good and noble gray hair . Until the last is to admire. Clever. I am a geek . Esthete.
And the portrait discussed - accountant Votruba . Modestly dressed, not artistic, not charismatic. Good honest accountant. In poorly sewn costume and slurred tie.
Well, about such trifles , as the level of execution of the portrait , even not want to talk .
But why should I have to write about it ? " Cinema is already - was over ."

I rather reminded Institutskaya statement . Literate portrait, but only just.
Indeed : the mouth can become narrower, and the nose - a sharper, but the shape of the skull does not change.
Verey GS Portrait of Konstantin Somov

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Tjutchev

can not be the work of Luba, simply because there is no poetry. Pushkin wrote poems in different genres, but it's always Pushkin. Even when it was a squib.

Dear Tjutchev, about poetry is clear about Pushkin, too, but so far there is no argument that this is not the work of Konstantin Somov.

[Зея]

Actually, you can apply to examination in the laboratory at the Interior Ministry. There is a forensic technology (comparative), in which experts at may make such examination. Precedents already est.Ya them chital.Kazhetsya was carried out in such a way examination of the sculptural portrait of Faberge and his portrait of Serov (I may be mistaken). And not only!

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Eugene

Dear Tjutchev, about poetry is clear about Pushkin, too, but so far there is no argument that this is not the work of Konstantin Somov.

        About the poetry - it is just the most important argument. But if you want, I can give an argument, however, in my opinion, significant. The whole argument in favor of the authenticity of this thing is built on what is depicted is Somov. But if you look closely, it is obvious that the lower lip man depicted in "Self-Portrait" absolutely not the same as for unconditional self-portrait (KA Somov). Konstantin Andreevich lips big (thick), protruding forward. The proposed on the portrait of his lips were compressed, narrow. I do not think that age could occur such strong changes. Typically features of mature age take even a few cartoon form, ie if the lips were vypyacheny, then to old age, they stuck out even more.