Exhibition VLADEY

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Сообщение от bykinist

is not it?!

I did not think polotovo and calculated the percentage is not, trust this:

Let's start with sincere congratulations.
No options: 73%of sales for the first time - a phenomenally good result.

[Ирина Ивановна]

Сообщение от bykinist

As for the droit de suite, then there has to be some kind of limitation period (say after the death of the artist) , when the rule is no longer applicable ?
After all, we do not pay the droit de suite of paintings by old masters , even if they came from a family of artists . I think there is a significant copyright , if it had not been expropriated , and the fact , so to speak , sound artist. In short , I'm confused .)

Take some time and read the CC Ch. 70 Copyright .

The fact that you called the " statute of limitations " is called a period of exclusive rights to the product . Exclusive right to work is valid for the lifetime of the author and seventy years, beginning on 1 January of the year following the year of death of the author .

That's why you do not pay the droit de suite of paintings by old masters.

Article 1293 . right of Succession
1. In the event of the transfer by the author of the original work of art with every publicresale corresponding to the original, which as a seller , buyer or intermediary involved gallery of fine art, art gallery , shop or other similar organization , the author is entitled to receive compensation from the seller in the form of interest payments from the resale price ( droit ) .
3 . Inalienable right of succession , but goes to the heirs of the author for the duration of the exclusive rights to the product .

In other words, to be eligible to droit de suite, the original author should have to sell their own product ( " alienate " there is no such word in the Russian language ) and then the rest of your life waiting for the cases subsequent re-sales of this product in the following chain of owners , and when bury 's heirs , then they will have to collect these droit de suite for 70 years.

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Сообщение от bykinist

It turns out that the " fox " is still not himself Inal put up for auction , as you wrote earlier. At least , certainly not " directly " .

I know that the auctioneer Ovcharenko himself contacted by this author , chose the product you mentioned , and the author sent the picture to Moscow. You can check it out yourself through their channels in the capital.
You certainly long in this "business " need to understand that documents the author can make in different ways, for example, the trustee (if there is someone to trust ) , so much more profitable . All that with an asterisk , from third parties on the documents , except that third parties may be qualitatively different.

[bykinist]

Сообщение от Irina

(" alienate " there is no such word in the Russian language )

In fact, there is such a word in the Russian language .

Сообщение от Irina

document author can make in different ways, for example, the trustee (if there is someone to trust ) , so much more profitable .

Why, of course so profitable - is directly involved droit de suite. )

[олег назаров]

Сообщение от Irina ; 2808381 "

I know that the auctioneer Ovcharenko himself contacted by this author , chose the product you mentioned , and the author sent the picture to Moscow. You can check it out yourself through their channels in the capital.
You certainly long in this "business " need to understand that documents the author can make in different ways, for example, the trustee (if there is someone to trust ) , so much more profitable . All that with an asterisk , from third parties on the documents , except that third parties may be qualitatively different.

Again, you fantasize . This work does not belong to the author for a long time and the last few years was in Moscow .


bykinist By the way you are familiar with the owner as far as I know <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Ирина Ивановна]

Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

Again, you fantasize . This work does not belong to the author for a long time and the last few years was in Moscow .

Then do not know what to think . Maybe Savchenko sent to Moscow one, and the auction placed another piece? ? Sotnikov + Savchenko personally by me in September in detail and with obvious pleasure was told about the work done to prepare for this is the October auction . They had already sent pictures to Moscow. It turns out that Savchenkova by how - what causes decided at almost the last moment , despite the prior agreement , to dismiss . The fact that the initial price is so small .

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Сообщение от Irina ; 2808711 "

Savchenkova for some reason decided at almost the last moment , has tentatively agreed to dismiss .

- Kleptunova I removed my path - said Ostap distracting.
What are you sticking to the man ? Russian language is told that " Studebaker " at the last moment changed , " Lauren Dietrich ," and he fooling . ( c) < ! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[Ирина Ивановна]

Maybe decided to punish?


In any case, I wish a lot of his authorship, and to all the lots St. Petersburg artists, success tomorrow.

[Aka Petr]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2807421 "

What kind of questions? We have plenty of places to buy contemporary art ?

Cyril, legitimate questions : according to the same AI average percentage of care for the Russian auctions 40%( just read in the interview with the same AI Mr. Ovcharenko ) . Held the first auction , I can not say that the much-touted , and the percentage of care on it 73%(as you write above <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ) . Thus we read in the report, AI ( yes in my opinion and almost Kommersant ), which is in the hall - sitting on the ground <! - ~ 1 ~ -> - there were plenty of people with whom communicated by the organizer of a friendly during the tendering , called by the name , ie, a small party . There is a logical question - and it does not look all or in part as an elementary " Decree (k) and " to prices rising , the collection became more expensive , untwisted area , etc. In fact , of course, say so no one will, and it is good if it is not, but the sediment is <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And another question arises - is it worth to take part in such an auction as a potential buyer, to possibly serve as cannon fodder for the real players - well, or buy in the end for stranded costs . I've said to myself that maybe it's paranoia, but still probably not worth <! - ~ 1 ~ -> although my subject lots is. and each , of course, decide for yourself .

And to the question , then where to buy and how much do we have places for that , then you can safely say that enough. If you take the sixties , they and other auction sites are in Russia and in the West and in the galleries and dealers offer the same forum AI. And with contemporary art even easier - there's Art Moscow , there are galleries , dealers have the same , but there are still other facebook + internet - where you can easily find a piece of art , especially the young . But the most important thing - I think that anyone who buys such an art , as represented in the auction, there is 2-3-4-5 dealers that this art was offered in sufficient quantity - all the same artists , and , sometimes, at prices below the lower estimate: <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And one more thing - when you have allocated to a chair in the hall , you need to sign the purchase <! - ~ 1 ~ -> or to be paid for attending the pre-auction exhibition, for me, it smells like the 90- ties of the crimson and jackets , and so a new audience , as referred to in the interview, not exactly conquer , but rather to frighten off . A trifle, but unpleasantly <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Here was such a solid criticism , but there are certainly pluses and that such auctions are held , I only <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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by the way was in February auction litkabinet , so there also were the sixties, and Conceptualism , and contemporary artists, and prices were pochelovechnee (at least on the Sixties ) - so there was some care ? 20%percent , I guess. And the second time was conducted . And in the hall was full of people. So they sat down everyone who wanted <! - ~ 1 ~ -> no one in the wallet did not look <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[манна]

Сообщение от Aka Petr; 2807861 "

And another question arises - is it worth to take part in such an auction as a potential buyer that may serve as cannon fodder for the real players - well, or buy in the end for stranded costs . I've said to myself that maybe it's paranoia, but all the same , you probably should not even on my topic items are. and each , of course, decide for himself .

Aka Petr, with such thoughts ( of cannon fodder ) just not worth it ... it's fun .... why myself for the money to spoil the mood .

I can say nothing about the auction VLADEY, was not . And at some charity ( led Ovcharenko ) was . She wanted to "Bread" Osmolovsky buy, the start was acceptable (can not remember ) . So I do not look back in time, it became 8.000 euros. He has seen the ( tried and tested ) customers , as a support group . Incidentally, this is a worldwide practice. The client supports the gallery owner who bought the work of the artist, who is in the collection. Since This gallery owner needs funds for further promotion of this artist. This mutual responsibility , in the best sense of the word.

I bought in the summer at Popova Grossitskogo , 2 of , well of course more expensive than the most Andrei Borisovich. But he is actually engaged in it , plus I work 40 to choose from , well, anyway ... Popov darling ... if I had a gallery , I would have " girls " he sent for training ( training of customer service ) ..

 So I'm not surprised by the departure of 70%.....

[U_Z]

Konstantin, Vladimir, Thank you!
Great interview, really, groovy.
Congratulations!


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