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Old 26-08-2013, 12:19 Original language: Russian        #1
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I think so . If it is not even " a cautionary picture " , but agree that it is closer to the icons than just a work of art.
By this agitprom icons to do.
In general, the term " cautionary picture " refers to the Chinese popular prints Nianhua



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icons to this agitprom to do.
In general, the term " cautionary picture " refers to the Chinese popular prints Nianhua
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By the same logic, people - is closer to the monkey .
You guys , it's something. The phrase to remember the movie .
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- And if you ask me something ? I lyapni .
- And lyapayut . But lyapayut confident. This is called a point of view .
The pious people of the past were often close to the holy icon lithography on hour of death with the inscription : « Shogo no escape ...» This helped them to think: what today will bring to eternity, as it does not live in vain ? « In all thy works remember the end , and thou shalt not sin » ( Sir. 7 , 39 )



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Old 26-08-2013, 13:59 Original language: Russian        #3
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Artem, the pious people of the past , as you say , do not hang a picture next to the icons. For, should not be among the icons of paintings , though written in the Bible stories .
So " Syzran " dictum - " closer to the icons " in any sense is not true.
Just a ...
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pious people of the past, as you say , do not hang a picture next to the icons
 Do you think I came up with it myself . You though google !
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When he saw me , a sinner , in my shirt , Father Nektarios smiled and said , "What , now all the way to Russia in Russian dress ? " Then we went to him in his cell a little out there on the iron bed was a huge old lithographic poster, no death was depicted as a skeleton with a scythe and an inscription: "Him no one can escape ! "
Highly valued and it is a cross with a large particle of the Holy Cross , which has always blessed the pilgrims , especially from Russia .
http://www.krutitsy.ru/index.php?mode=articles&id=80
http://pavel-gumerov.ru/book/vechnaya-pamyat/part4/sub2



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So what?

All sorts of things hanging from Nektarios over the bed.

Icons hung camping in the certain places, and near to them, the more mixed up, hang pictures, even on a religious theme, is prohibited
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By the way, you can not hang next to the iconostasis, even photographs and lithographs, holy persons.
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I wrote that this is not my words , and gave a link that lazy to read even with a link ?
Argue with him : http://pavel-gumerov.ru/biography priest Paul Gumerov .

In 1991 . entered the Moscow Theological Seminary in Sergiev Posad, from which he graduated in 1995 . In the same year he entered the Moscow Theological Academy. In 1996 . , Studying at the Academy, took holy orders . In the same year , by decree of His Holiness Patriarch Alexy was appointed full-time priest of the church of St. Nicholas of Myra on Rogozhskoe Cemetery in Moscow . December 14, 2012 was appointed rector of the church under construction Saints Prince Pyotr and Fevronia of Murom in Mariynskoe park.
Gumerov priest Paul writes books and articles , burn CDs , lectures , seminars and discussions on the topic of marriage and family , moral theology. Also, with the blessing of the hierarchy is singing in the choir of the Moscow clergy of St. Peter and Paul decorum . He is married and has two sons.



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Yeah I'm not going to argue with Paul Priest Gumerov, especially married and having two children.

I will set out his views on the matter, guided read, and pretty.
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Yeah, I'm not going to argue with Chaplain Paul Gumerov, especially married and have two children.
And what in the ROC has entered celibacy?
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The priest of the secular clergy (do not bring religious profession) without marriage and ordination will not pass, do not ordain celibate.



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And what in the ROC has entered celibacy?
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

The priest of the secular clergy (do not bring religious profession) without marriage and ordination will not pass, do not ordain celibate.

Cyril, turn the sometimes humorous, of course if you have such a button.
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This is not an icon, a "cautionary picture."

Preservation is poor.

It is unlikely that someone will buy more than $ 100


That's right, this is the so-called
"Spiritual painting" Memory of the Death with traditional text and image.
Similar patterns could hang for example in the cells of the monks, along with icons ..
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