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Old 12-03-2013, 22:26 Original language: Russian        #1
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Unfortunately, it was ahead of Ilya Ehrenburg. When Kostakis returned to the store and when he heard about took place amid very upset. At the same time, there came a great connoisseur of art Toskin Aivazovsky . He began to pat GDK , saying : " Do not worry you so , man. It was not a real Picasso . I know where and who is the original. The widow Vvedensky. There is 100%original ».
So paintings " Picasso" was two, if the first- kommissionke bought Ehrenburg ?



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This painting "Picasso" was two, if the first- kommissionke bought Ehrenburg ?
Yes, two . Was the first original, George Dionisovich remembered. There has been a continuation of the story , Kostakis wanted to write to Moscow, the Ministry of Culture, but was dissuaded one of the most influential collectors , arguing that Glushchenko great connections in the organs and it can hurt yourself G.D.K.



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Ah, but he was also a scout, they say.



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Nikolai Petrovich Glushchenko really was a scout . Since 1925 po1936g . lived in Parizhe.Byl familiar with Picasso , Fernand Leger , Henri Matisse. Ivan Buninym.Esche another interesting fact: in 1920 Glushchenko 1924. studied at the Berlin University of Fine Arts of Charlottenburg. In Glushchenko at this time he took drawing lessons Adolf Hitler. Nikolai Petrovich Glushchenko in 1936 brought to Moscow a folder with watercolors and drawings , who signed and presented Hitler. I wonder where this albomchik now !



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Nikolai Glushchenko really was a scout.
And, as it turns out, fake Picasso haggling.
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Some a little confused history here we told Jane Doe . Although it can be. People of this mindset , as Glushenko inclined to courage, risk adventurism. And then a professor at Khi . Although he could draw himself . In the studio of Picasso worked byl.Kak videl.Kartiny seen at shows and in the studio. He lived in that environment. Why would he want the border In 1936 g were up take ? To my knowledge, he could face arrest . Took him to the last moment of urgency. And the more he could not be engaged in this delom.Pochemu - even in divorce. school does not teach.
Glushchenko talented artist , worked hard and had more bystro.U 1000 oil on canvas works . And in life bought it well.
Now Glushchenko fake ! Race for generations!



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As far as I know he could face arrest . Took him to the last moment of urgency. And the more he could not be engaged in this business.
He said after returning from Germany to the USSR once went to Berlin in 1940, an ode to the exhibition of folk art of the USSR :
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In Berlin Glushchenko all day talking with representatives of German intellectuals, officials of the Ministry of Culture, compatriots. One day he was approached by a man , named Zacharias and said due to the phrase: " you greetings from Victor ." It was a password. Glushchenko said, "He also asked me to convey to you before leaving hello." The artist has received and delivered valuable information to the Center of military- political nature .
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People of this mindset , as Glushenko inclined to courage, risk adventurism.
About the risk and adventurism - is , I think correctly , remembering the fate of his superiors - and Commissar Yagoda, Yezhov, and People , and People Beria his life ended the same way - with a firing wall.



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In Berlin, under his own name with the exhibition.
As a citizen of the USSR.
In a friendly country.
> I think the student teachers would not hurt.



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Some kind of a little bit confused here the story we told Jane Doe
And the story will not you seem to be confused , if you read a book by Peter Roberts, Costakis friend , with whom he worked and were familiar with the 1957 (pages 77-78). All that is described in the book, written directly from the words of George Dionisovicha .

Nicholas Spain, and that there is a piece of paper , you would hear from Valyaeva ? In the long pending issue goes into a lyrical journey.
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Jane Doe thanks for the pics. Read a book. Do not be offended! This is probably the author of some putannitsa. Or have I misunderstood.
Originally, there were two pictures. The first went to Ilya Erenburgu.Kostaki know it poddelka.Eto it does not stop and he buys a second widow Vvedensky, who bought it from Glushchenko before. Glushchenko all confirmed. Then Falk brings magazines with pictures Delarerne.Foto copies when the copy was made in Paris. But where is the guarantee that Glushchenko himself signed up, and have not bought already signed and I was sure that he was selling at the show podlinnik.Razgovor with profanity. Funny. He could say in his Glushchenko opravdanie.Kto he would poveril.Pochemu Kostakis
did not return a fake? Strange: First Glushchenko sign up, then draws a second job and sells antique shop. I spy with my head really bad. And if you drew first job without Glushchenko, and the second he did not sign it and poddelschik! All charges afterwards registered with the words Kostakis, who has not received a single step or Kandinskogo.Kak that option! Sorry for the other side is nothing he can say.



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