Yu.Klever for signatures, the plot - is unknown. - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Paulle · 03-03-2013, 11:26

I would like to introduce you to this image :
Size 69 to 98 cm
In the lower right corner of the signature Yu.Klever .
Signature obviously coincides with samples of his other paintings. But the plot ...

> Clearly not his topic
It is known that the artist began Clover , Achenbach copied the work , which , in turn, such as specialized in maritime themes.
However, no pictures of the Achenbach or copies hand Clover could not be found ..
The image on the cardboard , creation clearly 19c.

Maybe somebody knows something , where he could receive such a plot with the signature clover ?

Paulle · 03-03-2013, 12:57

In the first photo does not attach a ...

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ANATOLY · 03-03-2013, 13:19

Photos of course not.
Works of this kind the artist is not a lot, but they are there, "Sea", 1893. "Morning in the Gulf."
So what can be himself Clover.

Балагур · 03-03-2013, 13:35

Reproduction on paper.

Paulle · 03-03-2013, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balagur

Reproduction on paper.

Of the original speech, and I was not going to ...
The question was - what is this picture?
If nothing about it you know, it is not typical for this author, but it has been the subject to copy ...

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Originally Posted by ANATOLY

Photo Of course not. Works of this kind the artist is not a lot , but they are there , "Sea" , 1893. " Morning in the Gulf." So what can be himself Clover .

Those views to the sea, I saw - refer to our " local" ... Baltic, Gulf of ...
Here - some southern motives ... Like something Italian, Greek ... What confuses the issues and causes even more ...

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ANATOLY · 03-03-2013, 17:27

Paulle, when you want to know what kind of work you need - quality photos , including VAT , material , size and other information . The artist was a few years abroad. His popularity was immense, he and several of his aides could not cope with the orders , sometimes showed carelessness in taking a few strokes on the Wizard and delivered to the customer. Therefore, in order to reassure themselves show the work of specialists .

Paulle · 03-03-2013, 18:38

Size - indicated after (69 to 98 cm ), the material - also wrote - cardboard ( fiberboard ). The flip side - is unremarkable.
In this case , it is not about the definition of originality. It's all clear . Interested in the " History" , as story is not typical for the author. And in this case - was copied . Usually copied most popular stories in which the author is most took as an artist.
And in this case - there is not a typical job , and no story is not ...

мистер-у · 03-03-2013, 19:11

Clover were working with similar themes, in addition to presenting, post a picture of "The Castle", it was sold in Moscow 5-6 years ago.

Paulle · 03-03-2013, 21:50

I agree that yes, much closer!
Thanks

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Paulle · 04-03-2013, 22:10

Experts omniscient Lord , always, of course , it is easier to pass on the easy banter of work exhibited to the general sense of " fire - falsity - falsity "
In this case the interest is really art history knowledge of the presented work .
Where it could have come from the well-known Russian nature 's landscapes ? And even become the subject of copy ...
Know anything about the original?

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03-03-2013, 11:26	Original language: Russian #1
Paulle Новичок Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Reputation: 2	Yu.Klever for signatures, the plot - is unknown. I would like to introduce you to this image : Size 69 to 98 cm In the lower right corner of the signature Yu.Klever . Signature obviously coincides with samples of his other paintings. But the plot ... > Clearly not his topic It is known that the artist began Clover , Achenbach copied the work , which , in turn, such as specialized in maritime themes. However, no pictures of the Achenbach or copies hand Clover could not be found .. The image on the cardboard , creation clearly 19c. Maybe somebody knows something , where he could receive such a plot with the signature clover ? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Paulle; 03-03-2013 at 12:56.

03-03-2013, 19:11	Original language: Russian #8
мистер-у Старожил Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 700 Thanks: 222 Thanked 484 Times in 201 Posts Reputation: 861	Clover were working with similar themes, in addition to presenting, post a picture of "The Castle", it was sold in Moscow 5-6 years ago. Attached Thumbnails

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03-03-2013, 17:27	Original language: Russian #6
ANATOLY Гуру Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,453 Thanks: 1,094 Thanked 914 Times in 546 Posts Reputation: 1816	Paulle, when you want to know what kind of work you need - quality photos , including VAT , material , size and other information . The artist was a few years abroad. His popularity was immense, he and several of his aides could not cope with the orders , sometimes showed carelessness in taking a few strokes on the Wizard and delivered to the customer. Therefore, in order to reassure themselves show the work of specialists .

03-03-2013, 18:38	Original language: Russian #7
Paulle Новичок Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Reputation: 2	Size - indicated after (69 to 98 cm ), the material - also wrote - cardboard ( fiberboard ). The flip side - is unremarkable. In this case , it is not about the definition of originality. It's all clear . Interested in the " History" , as story is not typical for the author. And in this case - was copied . Usually copied most popular stories in which the author is most took as an artist. And in this case - there is not a typical job , and no story is not ...

03-03-2013, 21:50	Original language: Russian #9
Paulle Новичок Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Reputation: 2	I agree that yes, much closer! Thanks >

04-03-2013, 22:10	Original language: Russian #10
Paulle Новичок Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Reputation: 2	Experts omniscient Lord , always, of course , it is easier to pass on the easy banter of work exhibited to the general sense of " fire - falsity - falsity " In this case the interest is really art history knowledge of the presented work . Where it could have come from the well-known Russian nature 's landscapes ? And even become the subject of copy ... Know anything about the original? >