Taxes in the art business in 2013 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

iosif · 08-12-2012, 13:28

Related topic already existed. I would like to hear the news .
What I know: there are three variants of the legal art business ( tax ).
1. Payment by uproschenke 6%of total revenues in the IP or the LLC operating without VAT. Cash - the cash register.
2. Normal accounting Ltd. ( the buyer - legal entity ).
3. Do not pay anything unless the seller - a collector, and sold them to the work I have been in possession of more than three years.

Question in connection with the introduction in 2013 of new patents for IP, allowing to work without cash register: as there is art business ? I could not understand from the description. Trade option suits us or not? And the trade could not understand , very wisely written .
I will be glad to advice.
If someone can give written advice - ( lawyer- collector

>) - ready to pay and knowledge.
In turn, I can advise on the legal relationship between the artist and gallery owner . And those and others. Bezvozmezdno

>

NATA NOVA · 08-12-2012, 13:55

iosif, add:

4.
The artist does not pay any taxes on products sold, if the total annual sales did not reach the subsistence level ...

>

iosif · 08-12-2012, 14:01

NATA NOVA, Maybe. I 'm not a lawyer

>. By the way, in Russia it is what level ? And if this applies to any private person , including collector ?
But I was still more interested in the issue of the patent. Because otherwise - the cash register , and it's a real headache. Many statements and troubles , for example , a constant (for money) service in a professional service.

NATA NOVA · 08-12-2012, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by iosif

And if this applies to any private person, including
collector?

Kochechno, collector also an artist (sort of)!

(Which creates a unique and unrepeatable work "collection"!)

Artoil-A · 08-12-2012, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by iosif

NATA NOVA, Maybe. I 'm not a lawyer

>. By the way, in Russia it is what level ? And if this applies to any private person , including collector ?
But I was still more interested in the issue of the patent. Because otherwise - the cash register , and it's a real headache. Many statements and troubles , for example , a constant (for money) service in a specialized firm .

In Russia, the tax base to pay minus deductions , such as for children, etc. These deductions on average meager , so we can not ignore them , and pay the first ruble income.
In addition to tax is mandatory payments to the various funds. If I am not mistaken , to 34 %. Accountability is not so difficult - it is necessary to master the completion of accounting books and forms of the various declarations . Usually required to buh.uchet , a day - two in the quarter, with timely maintenance of the accounting books.

iosif · 08-12-2012, 19:10

Artoil-A, patent incomparably easier.
Bought - forgotten.
Cashiers do not.
If no employees, then you can forget about the funds.

Artoil-A · 08-12-2012, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by iosif

Artoil-A, patent incomparably easier.
Bought - forgotten.
Cashiers do not.
If no employees, then you can forget about the funds.

In my day, it does not spoil artists.

And as far as I understand, for starters patent disadvantageous.

08-12-2012, 13:28	Original language: Russian #1
iosif Авторитет Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 965 Thanks: 924 Thanked 1,262 Times in 339 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 2027	Taxes in the art business in 2013 Related topic already existed. I would like to hear the news . What I know: there are three variants of the legal art business ( tax ). 1. Payment by uproschenke 6%of total revenues in the IP or the LLC operating without VAT. Cash - the cash register. 2. Normal accounting Ltd. ( the buyer - legal entity ). 3. Do not pay anything unless the seller - a collector, and sold them to the work I have been in possession of more than three years. Question in connection with the introduction in 2013 of new patents for IP, allowing to work without cash register: as there is art business ? I could not understand from the description. Trade option suits us or not? And the trade could not understand , very wisely written . I will be glad to advice. If someone can give written advice - ( lawyer- collector >) - ready to pay and knowledge. In turn, I can advise on the legal relationship between the artist and gallery owner . And those and others. Bezvozmezdno >

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NATA NOVA Гуру Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,736 Thanks: 8,058 Thanked 4,382 Times in 2,259 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Reputation: 8507	iosif, add: 4. The artist does not pay any taxes on products sold, if the total annual sales did not reach the subsistence level ... >

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iosif Авторитет Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 965 Thanks: 924 Thanked 1,262 Times in 339 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 2027	NATA NOVA, Maybe. I 'm not a lawyer >. By the way, in Russia it is what level ? And if this applies to any private person , including collector ? But I was still more interested in the issue of the patent. Because otherwise - the cash register , and it's a real headache. Many statements and troubles , for example , a constant (for money) service in a professional service.

08-12-2012, 19:10	Original language: Russian #6
iosif Авторитет Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 965 Thanks: 924 Thanked 1,262 Times in 339 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 2027	Artoil-A, patent incomparably easier. Bought - forgotten. Cashiers do not. If no employees, then you can forget about the funds.