P.Konchalovsky the picture. Assist in the evaluation.

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2339311"

For a similar "ultimatum" did not hear anything

Sorry, figuratively. Probably not very good. But the Foundation has always stressed. that only his certification can guarantee the authenticity of P.Konchalovsky. As far as I know - there is technological expertise is carried out by and on the basis of Art Consulting, and for art-drawn I.Geraschenko addition, the same experts GRC and THG? And the cost of services comes to 250 tys.r.
 

Сообщение от Dilettante, 2339311"

there was not a single (!) Pattern, which experts in the literal sense, not "pereattestovali" would. Completely refuted by their own conclusion is issued for 15 years before ... ("And where the Pole was - there tropics, where New York - Nakhichevan ...").

In!
  "... And we are people and not Bobby, they do not care!" >

 > I also had to be renewed several times zkspertiz acts. Therefore, the serious stuff - I try. that was 2-3 from different places.
  Well here - examination carried out in TG before the formation NINE them. Tretyakov and Konchalovsky Foundation, and although no one thing is beyond doubt, to the same catalog, and is known for exhibitions, there is always a "disgruntled" <- 10 ~ ->
Amateur, do you think, the experts of the Foundation conjuncture, to some extent?
After all, if I understand correctly, the Foundation created the brothers Konchalovsky and Nikita Mikhalkov Andron as a tool for fighting with his brother Lawrence Konchalovsky?
 That he should, in general, was not vprotyk get a certificate of authenticity to the picture grandfather > -

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Сообщение от redbor; 2345881"

and for the addition of art involved I.Geraschenko, the same experts GRC and THG? And the cost of services comes to 250 tys.r.

I know nothing about any "GRC experts" on creativity Konchalovsky, except Irina Gerashchenko (I hope she knows the ways of dealing with seizure diaphragm contraction ... >) is not known, because nature is not exist.
Besides it, Gerashchenko "involved" not for art-examination. (That's probably, in part Ermakova). IV from 1970. collected database of names on painting techniques Konchalovsky, which allows it to independently carry out a significant part of technological research.
I also know nothing about the details of the relationship and financial claims within the clan Mikhalkov - Konchalovsky, not mine, I'm sorry generously damn business. I only allowed myself to share your opinion about the examination of paintings Konchalovsky. Peter Petrovich, and at times very similar to it in the manner of Michael Petrovich. (As P.I.Petrovichev E.E.Teri and who understands >) And that is I.V.Geraschenko (obykalas, I suppose, poor thing) - the only specialist similar studies which dealt seriously with the assistance of a huge (literally) technological base.
A truly expert opinion can be taken and Ermakova, and Gerashchenko. In the latter case, do not need to go for an opinion in the GRC >

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, and the cost of services comes to 250 tys.r.

Yes, you! Zashib! I wish I - people incredulous. And while the bill for 250,000 rubles I see with my own eyes - I will not believe. >

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2346141

(As P.I.Petrovichev E.E.Teri and who understands >)

There is
Thierry on the forum.

And the second is the one thing of Thierry shishkinskih some suggest just work Petrovicheva.

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Thank you, look.
I remember my first impression of a still life with roses brush E.E.Teri : Gossspodi , but how many are his " Roses" is hanging in the meetings as work Petrovicheva !
Exhibition organized by the Gallery of Leonid Shishkin (honor and praise! ) - For the vast majority of the experts was the first experience in dealing with the artistic legacy of Thierry. Many , as I recall , and then stayed in a light stupor . > Some things - just what is called a Pap smear. Here you have the time, and canvas and paint, and stylistic similarities , and the build system . Well, respectively - and all sorts of visual signs of aging.
And who was known Thierry in the 80 - 90 years ? But none of the experts while practicing ! ( At least, not in the Grabar nor TG any of his work in the period under examination was not. Know? Yeah, I know ... )
A work Petrovicheva armfuls sold. In -the- by! And I - about the same ...

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2346311

I remember my first impression of a still life with roses brush E.E.Teri: Gossspodi, but how many are his "Roses" is hanging in the meetings as work Petrovicheva!

There's often even one and the same vase present.
>

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

There is often even a vase of one and the same present.

Uh-huh.
If I were the experts in painting Petrovicheva - just would have lost appetite ...

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Сообщение от Dilettante, 2346141"

until the bill for 250,000 rubles I see with my own eyes - I will not believe. >

I agree! Hard to believe that until such a bill presented for payment. > I'm personally acquainted with the person who paid for obtaining a certificate, even a little more.
 If you agree, I will ask to provide copies of all receipts. (Or can not personally acquainted with him.)
 I do it, the amount is not surprising.
After all, the minimum cost of the simplest examination called - 55 000 rubles., Plus preliminary examination 6000 rubles., Plus technological expertise in Artkonsaltinge >
 http://www.artcons.ru/partners/konch.html
and then, as luck would have, by agreement of the parties ... >

PROCEDURE with the Fund
Preliminary examination of art criticism

After receipt of the application with the applicant Fund defines the date, time and place of the preliminary examination of art ... The cost of the preliminary examination of art - 6000 rubles.

Diligence

After a preliminary examination of art client-applicant signs
 - Agreement with the Fund to conduct a comprehensive assessment and attribution
  - And with the company Art Consulting agreement on technological expertise.
 The cost of works on art history expert and attribution - negotiated and depends on the complexity of the research .... the minimum cost of a comprehensive examination and attribution is 55,000 rubles .

By the way, Michael P. often used the same paint and canvas as his famous father, and the style of writing of some of his work is almost identical to his father, but is Michael Konchalovsky signed his signature landscapes of his father?
Do wonder: what are cases when the painting, which was considered by Pyotr Konchalovsky was pereatributirovana as the work of Mikhail Petrovich?

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Сообщение от redbor

After the minimum cost of the simplest examination called - 55 000 rubles., Plus preliminary examination 6000 rubles.,

55000 + 6000=61 000 rubles.

The remaining 189 thousand rubles.
- Is

Сообщение от redbor

plus technological expertise in Artkonsaltinge

?
Or what?

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Can not you do the examination in the Russian Museum in St. Petersburg? Travel, accommodation will be cheaper than expertise in Artkonsaltinge . And in " Grabar " price level or above 30 000. And no Artkonsaltinga its comparative basis , and if I'm not mistaken , they are comparative data from the " Grabar " and the Tretyakov Gallery.

[uriart]

Zeya, they invite accredited experts at your request.

They will tell you two or three names of experts on the artist and you give yourself a choice.