Brief history of one of the exhibition and the controversy that erupted around

[LCR]

Wait a minute, Eugene,

I do not pretend to infallibility, but the story to write something I do not, I just translated it.

Generally speaking, in my opinion is just not, at the exhibition, I was not.

I laid out the text because it seemed to me that his problems go beyond creativity Fabre and puts common questions of museum policy and the coexistence of old and modern art (you listed).

Materials on the round table on the internet I have not yet found, though sought. Somewhere they should be, I will look for more.

Here are some photos.

You do not find that the passion of contemporary artists - the critics of consumer society, etc. to gold and, in general, everything that shines, that amazing? I'm not talking only about Fabre

[Евгений]

Interesting article on the topic

"The Hermitage his view of contemporary art" - http://bia-news.ru/news/60000

[JM-G]

I was at this show ... One of the main exhibits - a sculpture of the Jan Fabre, resting his nose in the picture of the old masters (can not remember which). appeared in the same river of blood. Even at the exhibition were presented numerous cockroaches (thank God, not real) and a giant worm among the tombstones (see photo LCR). Worm moved and hissed. People laughed and said, "Disgusting. In my opinion, it was in the halls of Dutch artists. perhaps someone thought that the Dutch themselves, without Fabre, boring. frankly, I do not think that someone from visitors to the museum was delighted, and went after the show to buy the album Fabra.

[Евгений]

JM-G, Thank you, your opinion is interesting ..

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Сообщение от JM-G

go after the show to buy the album Fabra.

I would personally bought with great pleasure, sorry no one in Russia.
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[Vladimir]

Сообщение от LCR

Do not you think that the passion of contemporary artists - the critics of consumer society, etc. for gold, and in general, everything that glitters is surprisingly?

I do not think that these artists podygryvyut calling consumerism (in Russia it is very accurately known as "potreblyatsvom"). Rather, it's just reproach, banter over the prestigious consumption over the new "flavors". Once the buyer is aimed at luxury - to you the golden notebook with keyboards made of ivory and diamond cherer of platinum. Is not it? Besides platinum Vertu phone in this sense, in my opinion much more vulnerable (in terms of vulgarity) than art yuvelirka.

[Евгений]

Vladimir, You may be right, but you must understand ..

[JM-G]

Сообщение от Vladimir

I do not think that these artists podygryvyut calling consumerism (in Russia it is very accurately called "potreblyatsvom"). Rather, it's just reproach, banter over the prestigious consumption over the new "flavors". Once the buyer is aimed at luxury - to you the golden notebook with keyboards made of ivory and diamond cherer of platinum. Is not it? Besides platinum Vertu phone in this sense, in my opinion much more vulnerable (in terms of vulgarity) than art yuvelirka.

I think we must distinguish between the original conception of the artist and translating it into reality. who buys a diamond keyboard and skulls? Those who and phones vertu. that artists are selling works - it is art-terrorism (banter of rich buyers)? or such a thing being sold to billionaire, drops to the level of the phone vertu? What used to determine gold and diamond art works: the fact that the artist wants to say about these products or that they make (no banter and not terrorism, but the usual luxury items)?

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от JM-G

what to be guided in evaluating gold and diamond art works: the fact that the artist wants to say about these products or that they make (no banter and not terrorism, but the ordinary objects of luxury )?

No art-terrorism and critical look, the look of the artist at his age. View modern, which becomes a monument to the era (like Warhol's Campbell soup, as 99 cents Prince). The rest depends on the education of collectors: how to perceive, as to present the guests and what to talk about it ...

[JM-G]

Сообщение от Vladimir

Not art-terrorism and critical look, the look of the artist at his age.

hmm ... I doubt that it is "critical" look. criticism as something people need to communicate. rather than for the average person is different diamond keyboard, made by some famous artist from the golden bathroom? nothing. To understand this, one must examine the concept of artists, who often seem (and perhaps still are) sucked from the finger. criticism, I think, not very "udavshayasya.

[Vladimir]

JM-G, Here is today Gelman in his diary read (galerist.livejournal.com). Please do not perceive as a stone in the garden, but just amusing observation.

Gelman wrote:

11:10 pm
  is this type of people who do not just do not like modern art in general, they are sure that it is in principle, can not please anyone. I have them like asking "Tell me honestly, and any pictures in your home, do not be so that the same artists that the gallery. One wants to live among the present art." They often come up with "rational explanation" why a completely sane person "pretending that he did like it."
Ilya Kabakov said today an interesting story from the seventies. Some foreign collectors, an important functionary of the museum, decided to buy his work. For this purpose, according to the rules of the time he wrote to the appropriate department MOSKh and put photos of work. Ilya immediately summoned to a meeting where the boss of the International Department of the speech is: "What do you think, why he is buying your work"
- Well, maybe she liked him, - responsible Ilya.
- Ha-ha. does not. He buys it for toast. He now you have to buy it, hanged at his home in Holland, invited guests for dinner and during the change of dishes will say, pointing to yours, so to speak, now, "Look friends, what do ãàâíî in the Soviet Union, and how well that We live in Holland, but not there. "Let's drink to it"