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Old 13-09-2012, 15:13 Original language: Russian        #1
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Default "Russian" scene from Bulgaria, help identify the author

Good afternoon. The picture was bought from an old antique dealer in Bulgaria this summer. The old man was so old and noble, when he said of the picture, that it is " Russian" and had come to him from a friend of a Russian emigre , who brought it from Russia and loved , I believe. Although at first glance thought it was something the Dutch ..
I also love this picture and really want to know something about the author .
The picture is old. Very dirty. Canvas is very thin, but strong . Cloves old. Signature is detected. On the back of the lower right corner of the canvas some blue stains, but the signature vrobe would not like it. paint layer is very thin. I'm certainly not an expert , but it seems that this oil . MB tempera. It is waiting for a response !
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help identify the author !
Identify the author of this picture, in my opinion, can not be done , because the picture painted amateur artist , and they, as you can imagine, many, many thousands.
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picture old .
I think that a hundred years it a stretch.
Although, not a hundred , maybe.



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Xenia Unknown, in my opinion, the picture of an amateur.
And even if it was clearly signed, that does not add value to it.
Neither art nor material.
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Old 13-09-2012, 15:32 Original language: Russian        #4
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Thank you!
100 years, this is for me "old").
It is a pity, I thought, someone, somewhere saw something like that.
Image bargain for $ 100, so, of course, did not think that it is a masterpiece of the great master ..
<- ~ 6 ~ -> Do not tell me what place better to turn to clean, restore?



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Thanks! 100 years, this is for me "old "). It is a pity , I thought , someone, somewhere saw something like that .
For me - and not Russian at all work.

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Buy bargain for $ 100 , so , of course, did not think that it is a masterpiece of the great master .. < - ~ 6 ~ ->
You are very generous , if not wasteful ...

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Do not tell me what place better to turn to clean , restore ?
Believe me, not worth powder and shot . If you add up the value of your buck for the purchase of the cost of the potential work of cleaning , restoration and framing , you get an amount commensurate value of good interior design work at European auction mediocre. This would be much more sensible. All the best!



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in my opinion, the picture of an amateur.
No amateur in amateur just written by a man at all far from the painting ...

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Thank you!
Quite so bad?
<- ~ 2 ~ -> And I like it ...
To the "Russian-ness" is, of course, true, but in the background of some silhouettes, such as muzhchinki in caps .. so and thought that MB
and Russian ..

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Tell me, though, please, where you can clean picture, good and not very expensive.
Or if someone has a story about how it can make their own, give a reference, please.
I'm from their attachments not refuse.
<- ~ 5 ~ -> Someone painted, some kept, and I throw it?!




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History of the Bulgarian "old man who was so old," - touching.

Picture - bad.



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And I like it
So it's the most important - in comparison with the rest does not matter!



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Thank you.
I think so too.
Although, of course, several hurt that my taste is so far from the taste PROFESSIONALS ..
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