December 11, 1699, Peter I founded St. Andrew's flag as the official flag of Russia - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Fed · 24.08.2012, 22:53

Ie Do you think that the alleged family mark family , which includes Sophia Palaeologus, and does not even belong to the imperial family since family have long collapsed, and the empire fell apart - a fitting symbol of the new Russia ?

Maybe you would come to the role of Cassandra , but the version with Palaeologus already discarded in a landfill versions.
Without getting rejected , why , just vote priorities: Bride orphan daughter of a wren ousted moreyskogo ( though she considered herself a princess tsaregorodskoy ), which did not want to marry a couple of European princes , and which give the Pope gave (probably with a Catholic intent ).

And her family mark Ivan took over three , married for the second time ?
A coat of arms is not the Habsburgs ?
I quite agree , "Ivan III adopted this symbol to show their equal area with the monarchs of Europe , in particular with the Habsburgs , who ruled the Holy Roman Empire ."

Incidentally , the same coat of arms are now other countries. Ie - "originality" and "positive " - does not hold.

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