Andrei Erofeev dismissed from the Tretyakov Gallery

[JM-G]

I personally think that the paintings of Malevich and objects Hirst - not quite the same thing. simply because Malevich was an innovator, and Hurst - well, where is the innovation? it "banal objects" represents all the dead bodies of animals, figures with twisted inwards, painting with dots - yes to him a legion of artists did the same thing, with a very long time. Yes, and the skull of this famous ... whole slew of inspirational concepts to come up with this skull, as if it is "reflection on life and death", but in reality ... I think that he (well, not him, and the factory assistants) made a skull (not the heart and intestine) because in that year of the skull were in fashion ... that's all ... in the case of Hirst's better than the infamous "marketing genius" to admire. and art ... Well boring is called art, because it is trivial. quite uninteresting with. I think art should not be so boring.

about Erofeeva I can not say anything because I am about him what little I know. but when I read somewhere that were exhibits at the exhibition "Forbidden Art" ... began to think the same as about Hearst. Christ with Lenin's head - why should it? a terrible banality and stupidity. As if a man who is created, fantasy (or intelligence) is not enough for a more constructive and impressive critique of religion. that people see the job, really thinking about how much influence religion on a person, not disgusted by cheap outrageous. Of course, with Yerofeyev acted terribly, and to prohibit the exhibition is not very good. but I do not understand why the guise of reasoned criticism of repression, which puts the power of religion and free creative expression, the viewer shoved third-shocking.

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от JM-G

I think that he (well, not him, and the factory assistants) made a skull (not the heart and intestine) because in that year of the skull were in fashion ...

The heart he also did. Good heart, by the way ... And not even one, for different tastes.

[Сергеич]

We are in discussion every time we jump from one to another.
I say that the severed head of a cow no extra cost in the form attached labor-power. That is what I say. And you jump on the "heart" where exactly is the investment of work.
Heart and another and another - good.
A pathologist then any we have become an artist.

[Meister]

Сообщение от Eugene

Yes "banal" art objects are in the 10-20 Hirst expensive paintings of Malevich.

Eugene, you what! appeared on the market any oil Malevich (as it appears, thanks to the heirs who have received recent 5 works), it will cost much more expensive than any of the art objects Hirst. Here Hirst argues that his skull is worth $ 100 million, but I'm almost 100%sure to find a buyer for it will be oh how difficult. And if you set a strong oil Malevich, even for 100 million it will turn, because this man - the father of all non-figurative art, including the same Hurst ))))))

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

A pathologist then any we have become an artist.

Sergeyitch in the art (classical, date) pay, usually for a name .. energy, labor, soul, otherworldly forces, no one interested .. the name is important.


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Сообщение от Meister

oil Malevich, even for 100 million it will turn, because this man - the father of all non-figurative art, in that

Most nedovno "Inkombank" for 1 mln.na "Gelos" sold Malevich, (there was a big queue).
Yes, Malevich my favorite artist.

[Allena]

Сообщение от Sergeyitch

I say that in the severed head of a cow no extra cost in the form attached labor-power.

Sergeyevich, I think that labor and energy of the artist - this is not entirely correct. Must be an idea - and appreciated it was an idea, but not the work that the artist is physically invested in the creation of the work.

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Сообщение от Meister

Previously, it was the idea, today it is PR.

No written response, Meister was ahead of me Yes, of course, speaking of the value of the value of the product, from the PR to the improvement of this expression does not compare - and then does not matter who the author of: talent, genius, or opportunistic talentless provocateur. But, you must agree to the soul, for aesthetic perception of need is an idea! Not all art is measured in money!

[LCR]

Сообщение от Allena

Sergeyevich, I think that labor and energy of the artist - this is not entirely correct. Must be an idea - and appreciated it was an idea, but not the work that the artist is physically invested in the creation of the work.

What is the idea in art? What is the idea of a portrait of a young Titus, Rembrandt's "fur" Rubens, "Ariadne" de Chirico, "Orchestra de Stael," Morandi still lifes?
I do not know.
I know only one thing - an illustration of political, social, philosophical beliefs of the artist does not interest me.
Innovations in the art, too (the art - not sport, and swearing Picasso with Braque about the invention of Cubism me laugh).
For me, the tension is important, persuasiveness with which the artist manages to express what is his inner world, and what can not express in words - otherwise he would not an artist, and writer.

[Konstantin]

LCR - Behold, it is.

Won from the paintings of Bacon - energy rushing - horror.

[JM-G]

Сообщение от Eugene

All repeat ... then about Malevich, now of Hurst ...

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Yes "banal" art objects are in the 10-20 Hirst expensive paintings of Malevich.

not very repeatable. the fact of the matter is that Hirst's art is unable to shock anyone. it even a little bit surprised no one is capable. the only thing that comes to mind at the sight of Hirst's works - "that's what a fine fellow, a good business has developed. out of work has already sold 20 times more expensive Malevich: D Well done! maybe in the future and obrastet his art concepts such as "Hearst has changed the perception of all art, bursting into the market, and trampled it under him, made him take it (Hirst) rules of the game, arranged the sabotage of systems, put it to a pig" and so on (if already not overgrown). and will all read it, as now, Malevich and Kandinsky. may well be so, but then the "mass audience" has been finally turn away from contemporary art, thinking that he vparivayut any leftovers, and still love them and make ...

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Сообщение от Vladimir

heart he also did. Good heart, by the way ... And not even one, for different tastes.

but the hard spin and sold over 100 million he had not the heart, and skull: rolleyes: