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Old 17-05-2012, 13:23 Original language: Russian        #1
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Bishop of Stavropol and Nevinnomyssky Cyril appealed to the governor of Kuban Alexander Tkachev requested "to prohibit criminal activities," Marat Gelman entrusted to the region.

Then Ekaterinodar and Kuban Diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church also opposed the holding of exhibitions in Krasnodar, organized by Gelman.
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At the very opening came up to 17:50, and there is rage. The boy stood in the middle of Marat, first shouting "Gelman pidaras" crowd that his face did not know. Then went to the door, where he ran a pop (a former physics teacher) and tried to break glasses and then spit.
They stood with flags and streamers Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party, the Nationalists. And two dozen half-witted people with printed posters. Freaks from the church and the Cossacks more than enough. Specify "what's wrong in the works" - did not speak. This exhibition is not seen, but consider bad. Many believe that he Gelman and painted everything. And the policemen forced to kiss each other. And Kennedy slammed, but this fellow.
There were about 750 people at its peak. A total of more than a thousand. The exhibition has not yet opened.
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gallery owner himself, personally appearing before the opening of the project and got to the conclusion of the crowd, spat in his face, propped up with this abuse, but the journalist of "Novaya Gazeta" Titov beat.
Let's discuss what?
In my opinion it's terrible.

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But after two fotoryada:

Here's the first - in fact the paintings themselves.
And that has caused such a protest here?

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But the second - actually outraged the Orthodox community.


I wonder what's next?
To my right will achieve the opposite result.
And okay hurt the image of (mildly writing) of the church, because of this shameless young people in general to the Faith can not come.




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Old 17-05-2012, 13:26 Original language: Russian        #2
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But after two fotoryada:

Here's the first - the actual paintings themselves.
What caused such a protest here?
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Old 17-05-2012, 13:33 Original language: Russian        #3
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But the second - actually outraged Orthodox community.


I wonder what's next?
On my right will achieve the opposite result.
And the right to suffer image (gently writing) of the church, because of this shameless young people in general to the Faith can not come.
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But the second - actually outraged the Orthodox community.

I wonder what's next? To my right will achieve the opposite result . And okay hurt the image of ( mildly writing ) of the church , because of this shameless young people in general to the Faith can not come .
Why the story is repeated again and again ?
came to mind " The Crucifixion " Ge ...
I am an Orthodox person, but I was afraid of such radicalism veruyuschih.Mne like a lot , which makes Gelman.Pochemu crowds are at the casino, children's homes , the courts ? Well, not like not let go ...



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I am an Orthodox person, but it scares me a religious radicalism.
And how do you conduct an abbot of a temple in honor of the Krasnodar icon of the Mother of God "Joy of All Who Sorrow" Archpriest Alexy Kasatkina?
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young people in general to the Faith can not come .
The photographs like a lot of young people with placards standing .

The Church does not accept noncanonical images of saints and scenes from the Bible. The so-called " jealousy of Christ " can manifest itself in such a protest.
For inchurched - is the destruction of the church structure.
For example , that in this picture ? Why does a woman naked ? And with the pagan , alchemical caduceus in his hand ? The work certainly anti-Christian .
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Tonight on the site of administration of Krasnodar region appeared Comment governor of Kuban Alexander Tkachev on going around the exhibition Icons of events:

- What is now represented at the show - quite a decent view of contemporary art that does not offend the feelings of believers and the church. In this I agree with Vsevolod Chaplin, who, while still far from being the last person in the ROC, is also not found in it a certain sedition. I am sincerely sorry that this show has caused such a reaction in some people. Perhaps it is an occasion for the most Gelman consider why his projects are causing so much resistance. And not only in our region. Of course, people may have a personal opinion and express it by any legal means, not through provocation and bullying. Obscene language a little jibe with the image of a believer. But in any case, the regional authorities do not intend to minimize contact with representatives of contemporary art. I have said, that there is no patent on Gelman Kuban. We have our own artists and their art. Today the province is already working more than 40 galleries of art. And just need a platform where we could combine them, to give an opportunity for creative communication and development. We need to cultivate young talent, to discover new names. Krasnodar soon, I'm sure will become a center of contemporary art. This work will continue - with or without Gelman. Probably not.
If it really wanted to harness oneself, that would be present at the opening ceremony together with Gelman. And the signal would be heard.
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And how do you conduct an abbot of a temple in honor of the Krasnodar icon of the Mother of God " Joy of All Who Sorrow " Archpriest Alexy Kasatkina ?
The servants of the church is very raznye.Sredi them and good and evil , and love and hate , and honest , and vorovitye ... love and patience ( perhaps even tolerance) is what we all do not hvataet.Uvazheniya to different ( even within the to existing legislation ).
I understand that Gelman was an exhibition space for the legal, advertising and design work spent, coming back zhe.Vmenit lawsuit bullies (and actions " plevateley " and screamers can be seen as bullying ) , though active in the legal field.
Once in Sergiev Posad ( the year that way in 92 m) on a big holiday pilgrims flocked from all over Rossii.Sluzhbu was to serve as Alexis came to the same abbess Martha and Mary Convent. We are on the sidelines stoyali.Lyudi with children , old people , cripples , as lomanulis ! Happiness to a request from the patriarch , not by works , prikosnovenyami.Szadi voice heard : "Great Man , the crowd is terrible ...". Monk stood and looked at it all.



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And with the pagan , alchemical caduceus in his hand ? The work certainly anti-Christian .
And how do you pagan goddess Nike at Trinity Cathedral in St. Petersburg ? This is a copy of the column of Fame was established in 2005 (original 1886 was melted in 1930 ).
About the Star of David on the baths of the cathedral , I 'm not saying niego . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
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About the Star of David at the baths of the cathedral, I'm not saying niego.
Well, the answer suspected.

That's the church who take it, who do not.

Yes, everyone has their own truth.
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