How should we talk to artists about painting

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от K-Maler

I liked the article (or interview) Popov, "must put an end to the term" investment art "intelligent commentary on what is going on ...

I just remind you: http://artinvestment.ru/invest/inter...popoffart.html

[iosif]

I-V, are possible options. For example, I prefer the version of the artist "from scratch " - of course , we are talking about zero visibility and no talent. With them easier to negotiate - they risk nothing and have nothing to lose . They can buy the archive as the basis for an equity investment artdilera - promoter. And with more buzz , if successful, the company - " who was nothing will become everything " , and thanks to you personally , an art dealer. ( Oh , and talent of the artist , of course. While the talent he had before and the success and fame do not was). And more money.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Seriy; 1919501"

This puts you on a par with them . gallery owner , part-time . Talk about , and without in any subject - who is first on the forum?

I also had a similar idea ( but with respect to morality , because as a ( whole ) grupki gallerists absolutely did not cause ttorzheniya ( rejection ) a fact dubious , manipulative lies about some of the ( fictional ? underground ? unknown ?) auction ( an old story ) , making logical conclusion is the identity of their level of morality and professionalism.

ps For those who do not understand it 's ugly and unprofessional to lie , it is an axiom (IMHO)

[iosif]

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Therefore, I personally do not understand - working with us, or contractual schemes do not work, and whether they at all?
 
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Work >

[iside]

Сообщение от IV; 1919401"

That's very interesting all the same it was to hear from dealers and gallery owners in this regard.
Why, in fact, this kind of simple, but attractive scheme in Russia does not catch on? That Western artists have less fear of our line method?

And why writers are ready to "enslave" a contract (the first and they are always scared of each other) every year, unlike artists, are more and more? Do artists have so radically different from the writers that even just a little do not want to go to meet the market? Or am I mistaken?

IV, I have some thoughts on the matter, will not be able to give very detailed answer, but it would be so short. Western art market is very different from the domestic first of its long lifetime, as well as the number of "interested spectators" that is, the percentage has held collectors, as well as potential. Economic status and financial capabilities of most of these "interested", and the sheer number of "interested in" art - all this is disproportionately higher in comparison with the Patriotic. the citizens.
Yes, and state. support the entire system (already existing) art in the West, it is also not comparable to the domestic, and it affects the interest and etc. etc.

In Russia must still develop only, and the more people will be involved in this the better for all in the future.
And artists, writers differ from the course, the writers are working on a project which has a circulation, and the artist, each piece is unique.

[Maskit]

K. Mahler, I just read an interview with Popov , a lot of smart signals. He reiterated his offer to invest in their present artists, while not mentioned those in which the proposed invest - esche3 5 years ago . Who of his new artists do you think is attractive, and we remember about them in 5 years?

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от iside

You do not enter the circle of those who is a valuable person for professional communication.
Is it so difficult to guess?

Especially the word "professional" smiled > ...
(And in particular in the context being discussed ... >)

[Maskit]

Joseph , I think an artist from scratch , zanematsya not profitable. The sheer quality of the artist is debatable if he did not himself pokazal.I where even his accidental promotion, his work must find time to throw in time is like a pyramid MMM. Hurt your reputation , and money will not make - the zero- artist the more investments in its public relations .

[iside]

Сообщение от Maskit; 1919701"

I think an artist from scratch , zanematsya not profitable. The sheer quality of the artist is debatable if he did not show themselves where

I think I realized that I had in mind iosif, and I even agree with him , on the other hand, all artists, once started from scratch , and all of them had the experience of the first exhibition , which is usually a failure if no one helps in the organization. And so with the help of the dealer \\\\ promoter \\\\ gallerist this first exhibition can be turned into a success.

[Артём]

Сообщение от iside; 1919711"

all artists, once started from scratch , and all of them had the experience of the first exhibition , which is usually a failure if no one helps in the organization. And so with the help of the dealer \\\\ promoter \\\\ gallerist this first exhibition can be turned into success .

But why ? The first exhibition I have been super successful, without a dealer \\\\ promoter \\\\ gallery owner , the next worse. >