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Old 10-10-2011, 00:24 Original language: Russian        #11
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I have always disliked Picasso was.

NATA NOVA, very properly expressed my thoughts ..



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Old 10-10-2011, 11:57 Original language: Russian        #12
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and pretty mediocre.
by the way ..

NATA, and this one does not like (sorry, no picture found on the net, with which he made)?



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fabosch, but this figure in 1919 is made from a photograph, you think?



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fabosch, but this figure in 1919 is made from a photograph, as you think ?
And what is there to think about. At the last exhibition of Picasso at the Hermitage this photo , as well as photographs, which form the basis of the previous figure and the dancers were all on display . They did, in my opinion, some Americans (but not vouch for it , because I do not remember )



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Here are a couple of examples:


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NATA NOVA, very properly expressed my thoughts ..
it must be abhorrent to many women as a sexist and a rake to the art but it is only distantly related.

Very sorry for the simple Russian woman - Olenka Khokhlov - what a "mifistofelya" go ..


"" Every time I change a woman, I shall burn the one that was the last. "
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... This passion consumed him completely. Diaghilev seeing interest decorator Picasso to the ballerina Olga Khokhlova, felt it his duty to warn of hot Spanish by weight on the fact that Russian girls are tough - they ought to get married. Olga was born in 1891 on June 17, the son of the tsarist army colonel, was commensurate with its position and education. Having been in Paris, was fascinated by Olga ballet - not very suitable for a girl from a noble family. In the company of Diaghilev Olga was due to its specific statistics. She was not a prima ballerina, but to engage the man's attention. By the time of acquaintance with Picasso in 1917, Olga was 26 years old. The troupe was going on tour in South America, the peak has already passed a ballet career ... Return to Russia, the revolutionary frying pan to her, the colonel's daughter? What was left but to marry a Spaniard in love with her? When meeting with future in-law Olga heard in his address: "Poor girl, you do not know what dooms itself. Pablo is concerned only with themselves. "But she had already decided, the same unshakable as the desire to do ballet. Hence, the family fortune she will be able to build on your own. "

that famous portrait of Olga in an armchair that was at the show and here to see prices given above - only one of the first images of its 1917 a year of their marriage. But what he had seen it in each subsequent year until 1923 and in 1937 .. when he had long been interested in Maria Theresa Walter ...

"Olga refuses to divorce, admitting that still loves him, she hoped that a community can get better. For several years, she feels split Picasso as a husband and father, he provides the family, they live together, spend holidays together, he loves the child, they travel, but as an artist he is looking for new themes. there is a new style in his work: to replace the classic portrait of her comes strange surrealism and expressionism, new stories, and most sad - a new model - Maria-Teresa. It intuitively guesses about their relationship, but does not want to believe it, after all, the new model does not mean a new love ...

Pregnancy Maria Theresa, the birth of their common with Picasso's daughter, and later his son, persuaded her to return. Olga is in despair, she looks calm at first in the beloved Russian literature - Tolstoy, Chekhov, and then - in religion. She feels the hopelessness and tragedy of loneliness: a country where she was so happy, became, suddenly, she was a stranger, but she can not return in the new Russia, a strange and incomprehensible to her. It can not come to terms with the indifference of Picasso and can not forgive him for her recent portraits, created in 1935. Being in love, he portrayed her beautiful and harmonious, but now it has turned into an abstract and unrecognizable monster. As always, the language of painting, Picasso, the artist gave her to understand that which is not always dare to speak the words.

In 1935, Olga Picasso leaves, red tape begins divorce proceedings. She goes to the south of France, wants to hide, to change the situation, to see no one, but not stopped thinking about it. She was disappointed, she was not interested in the secular context, it is not looking for new friends. Son? But this is no longer a child and young man, he was almost sixteen. He is a student and lives in his own world, no access to parents.

She feels that continues to love Picasso, watching from afar for his work, marveling at the ease with which he changes girlfriends: Marie-Therese Walter, Dora Maar, Francoise Gilot ...

Unexpectedly, she realized that remained of the same Slavic woman, brought up on classical examples of Russian literature. For her true love - only and for all, and her husband together in joy and in sorrow. She continues to live with their memories, not wanting to change anything in my life.

Long divorce proceedings ended in 1955 - the day of her death ... She died Olga Picasso, formally remains the wife of the artist, as if letting him know that continued to love him all these years.

Natalia Strogino "of materials

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it should be abhorrent to many women as a sexist and a rake to the art but it is only distantly related .
Philosophical question ... and it makes no sense to continue >
examples of art is absolutely terrible in terms of 9imho )
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Very sorry for the simple Russian woman - Olenka Khokhlov - what a " mifistofelya " go ..
It was her choice and did not do anything here ..



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Philosophical question ... and it makes no sense to continue >
examples of art is absolutely terrible in terms of 9imho )
It was her choice and nothing here can not help it ..
Maybe I should not have raised this issue.
And the name , you see, strange - " Pablo Picasso - sex and art ." Painting - painting, and sex - sex. And finally - a personal matter. Someone Picasso- like author , some do not .

Yes , the character of Picasso was, to put it mildly , not a gift but can not remember that he was a Spaniard . "We, the Spaniards - a Mass in the morning , afternoon bullfights and brothel late at night ," - Picasso liked to say . In this vision of his mentality . Olga Khokhlova knew it, but supposed to change it, but it did not bring up "Mowgli" .

Also, we do not know exactly what kind of event occurred and caused the rupture of honey and Olga Picasso in 1926 ( I'm not talking about a meeting with Walter , perhaps not only this). We can only guess. But it was their family business. Mistreatment of children? Yes , according to the Marina , it was terrible. God will judge him . Not taken of the dead to speak badly .



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Maybe I should not have raised this issue.
It is not in vain.

I am the subject had never seen and enjoy >



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In fact, this topic is not idle, no matter how we treat those aspects of our existence. For Picasso, erotic side is one of the key factors that determined his life and, therefore, works well. Another thing is that this is not always expressed directly.
In 1995, the great American novelist and essayist Norman Mailer ( author of famous novels "The Naked and the Dead ," "American Dream" , " Song of the Executioner ") wrote something like the biography of the early period of life of Picasso, " Picasso. Portrait of the artist in his youth " (Portrait of Picasso as a Young Man). In this book the theme of sexual behavior Pikassso is one of the key .
In this book, there is no "strawberries ." Just level the author is very different. Highly recommended.
The book was translated into Russian and published in 2002 by the publishing house EKSMO fairly decent circulation of five thousand copies. So , I think it is quite possible to buy through the Internet sites that sell used books .
Perhaps there were other issues.



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