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Old 19-12-2008, 19:50 Original language: Russian        #1
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Well, thank God, but then I thought against the background of what is now more grip and hallucinations began))
MDA, such jumps in prices, but even in times of crisis! it's better to buy oil!
Be unselfish, give to the Tretyakov Gallery!!
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makss, I did not understand your reference, some old 2005, the first article about the schedule Dobuzhinsky, Bakst, Somov. What are you doing?
You Klever offers for sale? No?



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if you read carefully, then 12 (if not mistaken) the bottom section is written about the work of Yu and clover.



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makss, this-"You have to wonder what would happen to the market of painting, if, as F. Malyavina - 10 times the estimate:. On the value of works by Aivazovsky then even think about fear. With such precedents, Russian painting in the near will become more expensive Fauvism, Expressionism and even some of the Impressionists. "?
More about Klever not found ...
Do you think the time has come when "J. Klever paintings will go under a million dollars? You leads to this? This gave a reference?



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makss, you're not in 2005, look around, listen to the radio, read newspapers, read this forum in the end. Honestly - as if the sky fell! Not even funny ...



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about the crisis in the world, I've heard ... but agree it's a good value for money ... but about a million dollars for a picture Klever-who knows .. in any case has already received offers to purchase for an amount close to the desired ... perhaps there a true lover of art J. Klever and this amount it will seem ridiculous (but not the high and low



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makss,
Price offer Tretyakov is real in our time. Maximum of $ 150,000 for fan clover. Six months ago it was possible to above.

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can find a true lover of art J. Klever and this amount it will seem ridiculous (but not the high and low
Are you serious? In the coming year for this price is just not there, and they are very meager amount of such true "klevertsev"

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Well, I can safely say all the open-I am selling the art as the forces and capabilities, I am not a "collector"
Then who? The commission things take?



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yes, and very meager amount of such true "klevertsev"
I would like to clarify, not "klevertsov" miserly amount, and authenticity of works Klever (father).
Yes, and strange people now sells for 370t.u.e and tangled in the two pines Clover YY (1882-1942) son? or Clover YY (1850-1924) father? "Who is the author?
Once everything is very lightly .. starting with the photo pictures ..



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authenticity of works Klever (father).
Well, now, it's very difficult to determine, where everything himself Clover's father wrote, and where his "team" work on the main front podmalevku and backgrounds to perform. There was such a period. A wizard really paying much attention to his famous fakturopostroeniyu subjects of the first plan (tree trunks and loved), then a thin Underpainting, next to the small residence shadows, brushes stiff small and midsize businesses put short strokes are solid across the trunks. Similar in tone, but different in color.
And if you remember how he originally worked with soaked cranberries and a glass, and cardboard lying horizontally ...
On the X-ray image, by the way, we saw kleverovsky (of course, not only his) receiver protsarapavanie handle brush for wet-on trunks. And to see them (pictures) can be, as he built the track, modify, and sometimes traces of general re-use the canvas. Its easy to watch: he has a number of techniques, a certain set, which are unchanged. At different periods. How to find, as they say, and poured ...
Sky is built in his characteristic and typical for him.
Something I thought of studying and in oriental-ekspertizny language began to move.
In short, clover-father-no mystery and no great difficulty for the expert, for the art historian. Chemotherapy was not necessary to do there, so look in the X-ray, UV, and can be in a strong side light, too good.
All signed and put the date on the sketches even put on the back autograph.
Application signature ... Okay, already bust.
In short, for forest landscapes:
the presence of dark contours trunks of large trees in the foreground, separating the image of a tree from the image background and a group of hull, thin strokes, intermittent flashing light along the trunk.
This is clearly seen in large formats. We in the museum, there are two, well just reference things.
You must forgive me, I understand that Ostap had suffered, but was engaged in clover for a long time, watched it and this way and that, but now remembered. A good artist, to be honest, not a genius, no-good.
A really about "a la Clover, you can write a doctorate. Or do not write about the fraud?
Connoisseurs-art? A?
Time is free, and you can write. In the business card stamped ... "How cool!" (C)



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Well, now, it's very difficult to determine, where everything himself Clover's father wrote, and where his "team" work on the main front podmalevku and backgrounds to perform. There was such a period. A wizard really paying much attention to his famous fakturopostroeniyu subjects of the first plan (tree trunks and loved), then a thin Underpainting, next to the small residence shadows, brushes stiff small and midsize businesses put short strokes are solid across the trunks. Similar in tone, but different in color.
And if you remember how he originally worked with soaked cranberries and a glass, and cardboard lying horizontally ...
On the X-ray image, by the way, we saw kleverovsky (of course, not only his) receiver protsarapavanie handle brush for wet-on trunks. And to see them (pictures) can be, as he built the track, modify, and sometimes traces of general re-use the canvas. Its easy to watch: he has a number of techniques, a certain set, which are unchanged. At different periods. How to find, as they say, and poured ...
Sky is built in his characteristic and typical for him.
Something I thought of studying and in oriental-ekspertizny language began to move.
In short, clover-father-no mystery and no great difficulty for the expert, for the art historian. Chemotherapy was not necessary to do there, so look in the X-ray, UV, and can be in a strong side light, too good.
All signed and put the date on the sketches even put on the back autograph.
Application signature ... Okay, already bust.
In short, for forest landscapes:
the presence of dark contours trunks of large trees in the foreground, separating the image of a tree from the image background and a group of hull, thin strokes, intermittent flashing light along the trunk.
This is clearly seen in large formats. We in the museum, there are two, well just reference things.
You must forgive me, I understand that Ostap had suffered, but was engaged in clover for a long time, watched it and this way and that, but now remembered. A good artist, to be honest, not a genius, no-good.
A really about "a la Clover, you can write a doctorate. Or do not write about the fraud?
Connoisseurs-art? A?
Time is free, and you can write. In the business card stamped ... "How cool!" (With)
Feedback through rubbish from foreign expertise or the Internet or exchange of experts on "Gelos" (not from a red diploma?) Chemotherapy was expensive pictures you see do not need, but just look at the side: eek: The man who wrote all these pictures Klever seen only at a distance or museum. I will not comment further.
About the picture. Red price for today - around $ 50000. If you give $ 100000 - take the money and run Clever in Russia know only Ignatova and Rimsky-Korsakov, here Lomize, which has had some punctures with certain authors. In addition to her expertise here must necessarily be technological expertise. It is necessary to check the coincidence of pigment signatures and pigment paintings. If there is no match for the paint - the authorship is doubtful. For the money examination must be flawless and of itself without a sponsor, referred to in the conclusion Lomize.



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