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Старый 03.08.2010, 19:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #51
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but I was more interested in non-commercial projects, and the history and theory of art, in particular, and the Transcarpathian School of Painting.
And that in this case you are not satisfied? This is a good option, issue a magazine in a commercial way independent of the investor, for example. Sami money found themselves released, sold copies, returned nested received (chat), I hope, profit-a big job done, it must be paid.
All OK, the most optimal scheme activities.



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came into this page with the theme "Truth and fiction about the Transcarpathian school of painting." A theme of Sarah - you have raised
My dear, you are first given a link to the site "amateur artist" E. Saran ....
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And there are other opinions: Truth and fiction on the Transcarpathian
where he writes nonsense, of Transcarpathian artists ..



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Старый 03.08.2010, 21:20 Язык оригинала: Русский       #53
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And in this case you are not satisfied? This is a good option-release magazine commercially independent of the investor, such as "moneybags" , which then impose their will, perhaps, the vision of the magazine and so forth.
And then money itself found themselves released, sold copies, returned nested received (chat), I hope, profit-a big job done, it must be paid.
All OK, the most optimal scheme of this variant.
Kirill, I can say about it, when buy a first issue of "Artists of Transcarpathia. Commercial project - not bad.

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Dear, you are first given a link to the site "amateur artist" E. Saran ....

where he writes nonsense, of Transcarpathian artists ..
Eugene, I already wrote to you, you also have the right to their opinion. Can you name a single work of A. Erdeli, which is in the world's museums and is recognized not as a repetition, as well as the individual style of painting of the artist. His style, his technique, etc. I understand you, you are an expert on antiques, you have your goals - taking cheap - sell expensive. A. Erdeli never was a founder of the Transcarpathian school of painting, he created the J. Bokshay in the Transcarpathian region school, and the school - it is a bit more




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Старый 04.08.2010, 08:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #54
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Старый 04.08.2010, 10:50 Язык оригинала: Русский       #55
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and who then was the founder? or Are you implying that such a direction as Zakarpatskaya school of painting there?
I am not hinting, but researching and presenting facts.

About the journal "Artists Transcarpathia" I give my opinion when acquiring and acquainted with him. In his work on the study of world art, clearly share the commercial art, where everything is directed by hook or by crook profitable to sell it and develop the world of fine art works of artists and works izoiskusstva, but not repetition, are not works of art.

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where he writes nonsense, of Transcarpathian artists ..
Eugene, you still have not answered my question ...

You are an incompetent person in the history and theory of art Transcarpathian school of painting. Your arrogance, ignorance, incompetence, not replace laborious study of the history and theory of the so-called Transcarpathian school of painting.

Until 1947. A Erdeli was brilliant imitator of masters of European art schools. After 1947, when Transcarpathia joined with the Soviet Ukraine, he continued to imitate European art school and, as a teacher of painting, taught that his disciples. At that time, to curry favor with the Soviet authorities, some critics twisted history and theory of fine art, brazenly declared all the achievements, the opening of European schools - Transcarpathian school. A Erdeli - founder of the Transcarpathian school of painting.

On the Soviet times are not going to say - and so everything is clear.

The time of independent Ukraine, where the research history and theory of art were not wanted. It is time for commercial projects. Sly finishes of art, an ordinary regional level teacher of painting as the artist presented to the world level and the creator of the Transcarpathian school of painting.

May disappoint all investors, collectors - are first political and then a commercial project. Erdeli not created anything new that might enter into the treasury of world art. None of the museums in the world to No works of Erdeli. Just deft finishes from art trade lit uneducated collectors, presenting them an ordinary repetition, imitation of a European school of painting, as masterpieces of world art.

And, as like you say (to respect), dear Eugene, Sarana no nonsense wrote on Transcarpathian artists, he concludes, based on deep knowledge of history and theory of the world of fine art. Sarana though born in the Transcarpathian region, maintained friendly relations with the Transcarpathian artists - never regards himself as a fictional Transcarpathian school of painting. I do not want you to talk about creativity Saran, so to talk about the work of this unique artist, one can speak with an interlocutor who specialist in the world of fine art that is able to distinguish the new, what could be called a work of art of repetition, which is the ordinary salon consumer goods.

In addition, Sarah works on the image of the universe, he created a new model of the fundamental structure of the universe. His vision and mapping of the universe - are unique, unique. To speak of the artist-ingneista Sarana, must be an educated person, know the basics of philosophy, have knowledge of the fundamental laws of physics and astronomy. You do not have this, and therefore enter into polemics with you I have no desire, and it would be foolish. So as you Sarana asked himself on his answers: "... in the universe forms do not exist! Shape - this is only the definition and orientation of the surrounding world of human consciousness and mind ... "your" realism "for which you are willing to offend everyone, only the appearance of an abstract of an empirical world that is moving with our supertsivilizatsiey to his imminent death. It is impossible with the help of your realistic painting, showing the spiritual essence of the universe.

I'm not interested in communicating with you. You are not an expert and researcher of history and theory of the world of fine art. Your interest in this unique the world of fine art is not truth, and the task: to buy cheap - sell more expensive.



In the attached files: some of the "founder" Transcarpathian school of painting Erdeli A.

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or you implying that such a direction as Zakarpatskaya school of painting there?

Veronica, on such a wonderful site www.artinvestment.ru, where it comes to investing in art must be attentive to the statements. With your words you have already declared Zakarpattya school of painting - the direction in the visual arts?
Maybe you did not mean direction, and the phenomenon (... that such a phenomenon as Transcarpathian school of painting ...)

Someone from beginners reading that "Guru" school of painting called the Transcarpathian area will continue to verbiage and bending the meanings of words and terms in the fine arts.

Yours.




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Старый 04.08.2010, 10:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #56
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where he writes nonsense, of Transcarpathian artists ..
Eugene, you still have not answered my question ...

You are an incompetent person in the history and theory of art Transcarpathian school of painting. Your arrogance, ignorance, incompetence, not replace laborious study of the history and theory of the so-called Transcarpathian school of painting.

Until 1947. A Erdeli was brilliant imitator of the masters of European art schools. After 1947, when Transcarpathia joined with the Soviet Ukraine, he continued to imitate European art school and, as a teacher of painting, taught that his disciples. At that time, to curry favor with the Soviet authorities, some critics twisted history and theory of fine art, brazenly declared all the achievements, the opening of European schools - Transcarpathian school. A Erdeli - founder of the Transcarpathian school of painting.

On the Soviet times are not going to say - and so everything is clear.

The time of independent Ukraine, where the research history and theory of art were not wanted. It is time for commercial projects. Sly finishes of art, an ordinary regional level teacher of painting as the artist presented to the world level and the creator of the Transcarpathian school of painting.

May disappoint all investors, collectors - are first political and then a commercial project. Erdeli not created anything new that could enter into the treasury of world art. In none of the museums in the world not the value of works of Erdeli. Just deft finishes from art trade lit uneducated collectors, presenting them an ordinary repetition, imitation of a European school of painting, as masterpieces of world art.

And, as like you say (to respect), dear Eugene, Sarana no nonsense wrote on zakarpatskikh artists, he concludes, based on deep knowledge of history and theory of the world of fine art. Sarana though born in the Transcarpathian region, maintained friendly relations with the Transcarpathian artists - never regards himself as a fictional Transcarpathian school of painting. I do not want you to talk about creativity Saran, so to talk about the work of this unique artist, one can speak with an interlocutor who specialist in the world of fine art that is able to distinguish the new, what can be called a masterpiece of repetition, which is the ordinary salon consumer goods.

In addition, Sarah works on the image of the Universe, he created a new model of the fundamental structure of the Universe. His vision and mapping of the universe - are unique, unique. To speak of the artist-ingneista Sarana, must be an educated person, know the basics of philosophy, have knowledge of the fundamental laws of physics and astronomy. You do not have this, and therefore enter into polemics with you I have no desire, and it would be foolish. So as you Sarana asked himself on his answers: "... in the universe forms do not exist! Shape - this is only the definition and orientation of the surrounding world of human consciousness and mind ... "your" realism "for which you are willing to offend everyone, only the appearance of an abstract of an empirical world that is moving with our supertsivilizatsiey to his imminent death. Unable to using your realistic painting, showing the spiritual essence of the universe.

I'm not interested in communicating with you. You are not an expert and researcher of history and theory of the world of fine art. Your interest in this unique world of fine art is not truth, and the task: to buy cheaper - sell higher price.



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Старый 04.08.2010, 14:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #57
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or you implying that such a direction as Zakarpatskaya school of painting there?

Veronica, on such a wonderful site www.artinvestment.ru, where it comes to investing in art must be attentive to the statements. With your words you have already declared Zakarpattya school of painting - the direction in the visual arts?
Maybe you did not mean direction, and the phenomenon (... that such a phenomenon as Transcarpathian school of painting ...)

Some of the novice, having read that the "Guru" school of painting called the Transcarpathian area will continue verbiage and the curvature of the meanings of words and terms in the fine arts.

Yours.



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Старый 04.08.2010, 14:49 Язык оригинала: Русский       #58
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Maybe you mean not the direction, and the phenomenon (... that such a phenomenon as the Transcarpathian school of painting ...)
and now you have not answered my question, though it clearly understood. You can love or not to love Zakarpattya school, you can apply the concept of direction or phenomenon, but this does not change the essence . Zakarpatskaya school was and is.



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