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Старый 28.06.2010, 23:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #61
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What is known about how it was with Alexander III?
Probably, as usual, inherited from dad.
I can not find a book where everything is described.
B. You went to the Tretyakov Gallery, visitors b themselves ....
Can understand why Krasnikova wrote "unknown author".
 I am in the sculpture is not very ..
He showed photos of the bust of a collector having a genuine work Antokolsky,
  acquiring the statue and understand them.



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Старый 29.06.2010, 00:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #62
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showed photos of the bust of a collector having a genuine work Antokolsky,
acquiring the statue and understand them.
It's Receipt for expertise, not on its expertise! Nikityuk and without examination was sure, but possovetovala to do everything according to the rules, to obtain documentary dock into. And what collector of said that?



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Старый 29.06.2010, 20:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #63
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And as the book is not you remember?
I remember: "History of Russian Art (in six volumes), ed. I.E Grabar M.1953g" book that is, a page where you read it, I can not find.
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Is this a relative, as Golitsyn, could he give? Holidays a lot
What Golitsyn for Holstein-Gottorp
relative? not even seventh water ...
And he that shuttle work? From Europe busts hauled suitcases?
One himself, the other king, yet another in the Hermitage, the next - for your friends ...
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Nikityuk and without examination was sure, but possovetovala do everything by the rules, to obtain documentary dock into. But that said collector?
The history is interesting, but does not add authenticity. Collector - very doubtful authorship M.M.A.
 Is it the arguments. Even said, do not and O. Nikityuk trouble with the issue.
Yes, it is unlikely to remember.
I am in the statues do not understand well, but the arguments are reasonable and demonstrable, and even clear to me that I could not M.M.A this bust make. A pity. Given the above sales prices of bronze castings, marble sample sale of Antokol's'kogo could be a lot to enrich the seller ..



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Старый 02.07.2010, 04:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #64
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even said we should not and O. Nikityuk trouble with the question.
But this is wrong! Today, a detailed talk with the owner of the bust. It is quite secretive and does not like to speak on these topics. However, I have everything - yet it was able to clarify some points that you seem controversial. She showed me some old black and - white photos, some of which can be seen the bust, including a photo, where she was still a little girl stands beside a bust when he was still a large marble top stand, where denotes the name Antokol's'kogo. I already wrote that she was a doctor and a fairly well-known, while publishing his work, as under the name Golitsyn, and Cherkasova. Nikityuk came to her house and saw the bust (without stand), immediately announced that it Antokolsky. At that time Nikityuk ill daughter and purpose of the visit was linked including this. Later, the owner of the bust, as a doctor, helped and most Nikityuk, which possovetovala, go to the Tretyakov Gallery, to Krasnikova. Krasnikov, too, came to her home and looked at the bust. Then suddenly, my friend suggested, donate a bust of the Tretyakov Gallery, than of course, greatly surprised her! She asked, so you agree that this Antokolsky? Krasnikov said that just so she could not say what my acquaintance, asked a reasonable question, but why did you want me to bust gave the Tretyakov Gallery? Have you lost your little sculpture? Krasnikova not answer, but has issued a receipt, which you've already seen. A little later, a friend of mine asked a friend, who introduced an FSB colonel and offered to buy the bust, predvfritelno, having expertise in the Tretyakov Gallery. Bring, we will arrange everything, I say agreed to the examination, and then you pick it and we, make a purchase - sale. My friend went to the Tretyakov Gallery, but the bust, about which you wrote, she had not seen, said he was supposedly in store. In my opinion, this is very strange! It suggested, come, pay the money and take your bust, but he told her he was ready to buy a bust, but only after passing the necessary procedures in the Tretyakov Gallery. All this interest, she did not like, and seemed strange, and she refused, despite the fact that it offered just the amount that she called Nikityuk, namely, 300 thousand cu. Here's a story! Believe it or not, bust it still will sell sooner or later, but he will be decorating someone else a collection, once you are more worried about my mistake with n and go. As regards the relationship with the Romanovs, you're wrong, delve into history, there you will find out that members of the house, sometimes on the Russian princess married! As for the grandfather of my friend, he was general-aide suite is Alexander III, which as you say he belonged to a bust, in the Tretyakov Gallery's storerooms. Maybe this confuses you a collector? He thought that the bust was alone? I do not see the problems for which are not only related, but also as a confidant of the Emperor, he could not give or recommend to him, bust Antokolsky, the same as the one that gave his family Augustine. After leaving Russia, Augustus (Augustin Petrovich Golitsyn) left bust in Russia, it was after the death of one of his descendants, my acquaintance wanted by the law firm, as an heiress. Were the Soviet era, they were frightened and refused. Personally, I think it was a mistake. How could Augustine know Antokol's'kogo personally, while he arranged exhibitions in Paris, where the prince resided permanently? I am not even clear on this subject. And in Rome, Golitsyn were frequent guests.



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Старый 02.07.2010, 11:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #65
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Nikityuk came to her house and saw the bust (without stand), immediately declared that it Antokolsky ... she refused, despite the fact that it offered just the amount that it called Nikityuk, namely, 300 thousand cu. Here's a story! Believe it or not
How does it "want to believe it!". Of course I believe ..
There anyone you want-not-want, believe me!
 Just do not mention some important details.

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publishes his work, as under the name Golitsyn, and Cherkasova
Already Golitsyn!? Not First? I know one Catherine Golitsyn, but it's not a doctor and a journalist. (Another singer is, but it did not know.)
 Your friend does not sing? Or was she a writer?




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Старый 02.07.2010, 14:08 Язык оригинала: Русский       #66
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Your friend does not sing? Or was she a writer?
No, she's a doctor - a homeopath, travnitsa (wants to sell the bust to organize the nursery) and a very well-known astrologer, therefore dating in bohemia of her most diverse. Here and personal natal chart and advanced horoscopes, published several papers on this topic. Published as Sophia Golitsyn and Cherkasova (the stars decide how and color cover). I was a little different person, but astrologers have its own logic, often incomprehensible to outsiders. I was interested as a writer, even history itself with the busts, already inspired by the story, which I will use in the next book. The decision to sell or not to sell, through whom and how, taken by the stars. At this point you want to laugh or not, but there are such people and they are many, even in our time. Even I am on this subject from the perspective of the Kabbalah, the priestesses of Astarte and King Solomon in the book, which is now finished writing, but of course, without such details, what they know, such experts as it is ...



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Старый 02.07.2010, 16:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #67
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Indeed: An amazing number!
All work M. Antokol's'kogo known: and marble sculptures, and plaster samples, and bronze and brass castings with samples.
(For example a marble bust of Christ from the State Tretyakov Gallery has a bronze repetition in the Saratov Museum, etc.)
There are even those that were lost.
 It is doubtful that the work shown here - is irrelevant
to Antokolsky.
 But the stories told by interesting.
With the change of locale and the names of the characters.
Antokolsky-here it is:
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Старый 02.07.2010, 21:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #69
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What nonsense it!



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NEO, found the correct word. Thread, in my opinion, is not aware of the fact that he writes. That OD Nikityuk, it turns out, gives oral expert opinion and evaluation, the employee TG mediates in the sale, go to the house with forms and stamps, it's paid for "and, apparently, takes the money by bookkeeping. He was lucky only to General FSB, which seems to have not introduced, as follows. And it only has not been decried. I think the admins need to remove part of the topic by mentioning the names of some fabulous stories.
In regard to the examination GTG: ticket on the scan - this result of Monday expertise in GTG. More could be written only on the back of the photo. And all. Why pile up so much fantasy? Clearly the same is written - "unknown sculptor. Written by a specialist, they signed. Everything else can be classified as libel. Think. This is not the Arians with Aryans. They could rebel.



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