Collecting and Collectibles

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Сообщение от Pavel

In France, collecting has a long and serious tradition, so it is build on this experience.

Maybe at first, "lean" on them Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от tandem

As you well in France and the salt water is wet and salty!
 You may have lived long in France .... And no he can not grow out of their Plaisir s (plaisir).
I sympathize, but I want to read it all the same - something interesting on the topic "Collecting and Collectibles" in relation to local, domestic conditions of life.

France kollosalny experience in this business, there is every second art collector or a collection of paintings, because they have a place to buy and sell. It is ridiculous to talk about the pictures and talk about their price, catalogs and auctions. There doing this and the rich and the poor. For the poor, wrote Van Gogh, but he was torovtsem and knew the market fluctuations and at the same time was Van Gogh. And so on ....

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Maybe first "lean" on them Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité?

Do not lean, do not! Why do you need these biblical commandments? So before ... not far from there is a God created all equal, and so Read, Cyril, read!

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Pavel

That's the question of how to make the gathering and collecting accessible and useful employment.

You too landed a job. But it is akin to painting. Here, too, need inspiration, knowledge of the subject, taste, and much more. It can be made available as well as the painting is available for all (paint, brushes and canvas in fact can buy everything). For collectors the means to have enough (money) as little as for classes in painting just watch as the talented "paint" the other.

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Сообщение от Pavel

there doing this and the rich and the poor.

Together! Rich gather ... and the poor - all that after they left ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

Why do you need these biblical commandments?

Actually, the Biblical 10 Commandments of others.
Remember these at least:
Honour thy father and thy mother, that you were good, and that thy days upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee .
Do not kill.
Do not commit adultery.
Not steal.
Do not bear false witness against your neighbor.

[Pavel]

Right! That talent makes the collector a collection of valuable, interesting and expensive paintings. (Shchukin). The amount of money sometimes plays the opposite role. Shoved alleged masterpieces, created false names all kinds of promotion methods, and many prescription-only search, explore, and find myself. Everything is done, even kings. (Vollar.)

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Сообщение от Buscador

Together! Rich gather ... and the poor - all that after they left ...

Disagree! If a person has a taste and desire, and he will bring money into small be healthy. And the exhibition will come and the soul of an artist as you like. Artists all love when they understand and collect. The same artists! Faster to such a person will go to a meeting and have such a person are likely to be masterpieces, than where the greedy brokers and ohranschiki with stone faces. The artist knows his own worth and understand respect.
Under certain circumstances, an ordinary person can become wealthy, just as quickly as rich razzoritsya.
Cyril
All men are created equal before God,
The rich do not go to heaven as a camel does not pass through the needle's eye. etc.
In addition, Soviet Communists defeated the Nazis which was the name Yahweh.
Or Yahweh, not God or Yahweh like the Communists.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Pavel

The amount of money sometimes plays the opposite role. Shoved alleged masterpieces, created false names

But you are not talking about collecting, and lohizme, folly, etc. We're talking about the professional approach to any kind of activity, including collecting. If the holder of capital "vtyuhivayut just" garbage "for a lot of money, collecting from this type will only begin when he starts to understand where he has that and get rid of the ballast.

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Сообщение от Pavel

it will bring money into small be healthy

Unfortunately the poor not to gathering and their small money they spend on bread nasuschny. Collecting all the same for relatively wealthy people ...

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Buscador

But you are not talking about collecting, and lohizme, folly, etc. We're talking about the professional approach to any kind of activity, including collecting. If the "holder of capital" vtyuhivayut any "junk" for big money, collecting from this type will begin only when he begins to understand where he has that and get rid of the ballast. In general: to learn, learn, learn ...

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Unfortunately the poor not to gathering and their small money they spend on bread nasuschny. Collecting all the same for relatively wealthy people ...

Totally agree, this is the start and collections. With a heap of rubbish in the chic frames and, if there is taste, then something goes and comes now.
A second does not agree. Sometimes there is no money, but there is love and, most importantly, taste, and then the collection may be fed and sometimes becomes a profession like Vollard. Talent as an artist, or is, or not, but if there is a poor man, he may cease to be poor for sure. We are not the first and very interesting examples from the history of Impressionism, when the first painting which cost little, became very expensive.
As interest in the multiplication of this case, I focus on the material side, which in France was very important.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Pavel

Sometimes there is no money, but there is love and, most importantly, taste, and then the collection may feed

Provided that the collection has raised someone up to you, but it feeds you (that is, you are implementing it). But it's not collecting, but quite the contrary.
 In his experience, I know (do gathering about 10 years and has collector did not) that the collections are not created from scratch and can not multiply without some investment. Real Collectibles - vsepoglaschayuschaya game (akin to a casino), when all the actions and intentions are subject to achieve a certain goal.

Сообщение от Pavel

We are not the first and very interesting examples from the history of Impressionism, when the first painting which cost little, became very expensive.

 This is not from the area of collecting, and from the scope of a sudden enrichment at the expense of random possession of copyright subject matter (picture), which hyped others.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Buscador

Provided that the collection has raised someone up to you, but it feeds you (that is, you are implementing it). But it's not collecting, but quite the contrary.
 In his experience, I know (do gathering about 10 years and has collector did not) that the collections are not created from scratch and can not multiply without some investment. Real Collectibles - vsepoglaschayuschaya game (akin to a casino), when all the actions and intentions are subject to achieve a certain goal.


 This is not from the area of collecting, and from the scope of a sudden enrichment at the expense of random possession of copyright subject matter (picture), which (the author) hyped others.

Who said that the collection can not sell? Or individual items from it. The collector may die, finally. and his family are entitled to receive the material component in the creation of which the family participates, too. To divide the inheritance finally. The value of the collection is determined and hard collector. Sometimes they win.
Artists spins time. Time is an honest man.