The process for the exhibition "Forbidden Art 2006" is nearing completion

[luka77]

Сообщение от Posav

And here is the view of "People's Cathedral" are suing Erofeeva:
http://narodsobor.ru/default.asp?artID=3542

and here an excerpt from the text "People's Cathedral":

"In war there is such thing as a" reconnaissance in force "when one of units attacking the enemy defense to get to show all hidden from prying eyes" surprises ": the system of fire, ambushes, control centers and hidden reserves, etc. It is the role played by such a unit, dealing a blow to the provocateurs of the art movement "People's Cathedral".

In the end - we saw them all. They saw that all of them - together. And what are they against us - against Russia, its traditional values, spirituality and culture - also not alone, guided by emotions or convictions, but within a common, albeit hidden from the eye structure. We, of course, had already guessed, all these formally independent "human rights" liberals "revolutionaries," Pornography, "fighters against clericalism, and DIC, separatists and perverts - in fact, only the figures on the chess board, moves which "player", located far away from Russia. Just now it has become abundantly clear to all. "

So I want to say "thank you" that opened our eyes and found all the traitors and agents provocateurs (including "Forgiveness was in the past stupidity Academy Ginsburg)

Rotten insanity ...

Who does not like - do not look, no you're not wanted and not have to!
Why is it so loudly to shout, especially lzhepatriotam and fans of religion?

[Эммануил Гедеонович]

Сообщение от luka77

And here are excerpts from the text of the "People's Cathedral":

"In war there is such thing as a" reconnaissance in force ", where one of the units attacking the enemy defense to get to show all hidden from prying eyes" surprises ": the system of fire, ambush, control centers and hidden reserves, etc. It is the role played by such a unit, dealing a blow to the provocateurs of the art movement "People's Cathedral".

In the end - we saw them all. They saw that all of them - together. And what are they against us - against Russia, its traditional values, spirituality and culture - also not alone, guided by emotions or convictions, but within a single, albeit hidden from the eye structure. We, of course, had already guessed that all these formally independent "human rights", liberals, revolutionaries, pornography, "fighters against clericalism and defense," the separatists and perverts - in fact, only the figures on a chess board, moves which "player", located far away from Russia. Just now it has become absolutely clear to all. "

It is a disease ...
Orthodoxy brain ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

of the Criminal Code for "Forbidden Art" can not be applied.

All normal people think so, only the forces of obscurantism, but the so-called Russian "patriots" (nationalists) for judicial prisledovanie ..
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"... The fact that the trial for the exhibition" Forbidden Art "is a violation of free speech, said earlier the European Cultural Parliament. Pursuing the organizers of Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev, authority seriously violates Russian and international legislation, said the resolution ETUC, adopted at the session in Gothenburg. the charges the sponsors feel totally unfounded. ETUC urged Russian prosecutors to stop prosecuting Samodurov and Yerofeeva ... "

http://grani.ru/Culture/art/m.179331.html

[Allena]

Сообщение от Emmanuel Gedeonovich

Orthodoxy brain

Orthodoxy got nothing to do with it, dear Emmanuel Gedeonovich. Um, respect for others and sense of tact may be present or absent from a representative of any denomination or atheist. And rude fools also occur among people professing a particular religion and among atheists. Media also played in this case is not final role - not the most plausible. Whoever heard of a "People's Cathedral", if it were not for all this noise?
And in the absence of distinct laws all adopted such exaggerated form.
I think in this case, intelligence and tact was not enough for both sides.

I share the view of Mr. Avdeeva. In my opinion, the only well-balanced perspective on the process of all that has been published. It is gratifying that it expressed exactly minister of culture.

Week 2 back in the "meantime" the channel "Culture" was a very interesting discussion of "Provocation as a technology."
Information-analytical program. Remained whether the boundaries that have not yet crossed the modern culture? Do not become a scandal in the compulsory element of pre-sales? Do not destroy themselves whether philosophy provocation? Guests: Yuri Samodurov, historian, organizer of the exhibition "Caution religion; Oleg Genisaretsky, Doctor of Arts, Deputy Director of the Institute of Philosophy, Archpriest Igor Pchelintsev, a member of Mezhsobornogo presence ROC; Ivan Lubennikov, artist; Xenia Luchenko, chief editor of Internet publishing" Tatyana's Day .

If we exclude from discussion overly emotional stance of Ms. Luchenko and, alas, stoic reluctance Yuri Samodurov listen well, to be felt to one of his colleagues, including Oleg Genisaretskogo, the discussion was very interesting. All others were trying to understand each other and find common ground is very different positions ... Moreover, it seems to me that if instead Samodurova participated in the transfer of Andrei Erofeev, the benefit would be much better for the topic and an audience for modern art.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Allena

Orthodoxy got nothing to do with it

One way to do with it? "Orthodox community" smashed an exhibition against the barbarians at first brought a criminal case, and only then against Samodurov (as director of grounds, which was exhibited this exhibition) and Erofeev (as curator of the exhibition).
I believe that Orthodox Christians are very relevant to this case.
 Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev charged with second part of Article 282 of the Criminal Code ("Incitement to religious hatred and enmity"). According to orthodox works by artists Ilya Kabakov, Vyacheslav Mizin, Alexander Kosolapov, Michael Rodyns'ke contain pornographic pictures, obscene on crucifix and other Christian character and offends their feelings.

[Allena]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

One way to do with it?

See my post number 29. Tolerance is the spiritual quality of any faithful person - regardless of religion, which he professes. In this case we are dealing with people who do not even have religious fanatics (it's a different story altogether), but with people (as I strongly believe) that used the situation to propagandize their "People's Cathedral" by the media.
Agree: tolerance deeper and based on much more solid basis of sense, than that's such a well-planned, with a cool head-conceived event, attended by prosecutors, the courts, the media, which we now see. And by the way had a religious background.
Incidentally, the same discussion it was suggested (can not remember who suggested it) that if you were hurt feelings of the adherents of other faiths - Islam, such as Judaism, the scandal would have been international, and much louder.
Mr. Samodurov in the discussion on the canal culture can not hide that he does not like the role the Orthodox Church plays in our society, and this exhibition is motivated by including this consideration.
In a word, that complete a debate which, if it continued on this forum can take away God knows where (for what admins do not pat on the head), I can only say one thing: who sowed the wind - reap storm. What happened. There are situations where a person acts without thinking about consequences. I hope you understand that the organization of the exhibition - this is not the case ... And Avdeev is rated, in my opinion, absolutely correct.
Sincerely,
Allena

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Allena

sowed the wind - reap storm.

Well, yes, Samodurov with Yerofeyev "planted" exhibition at the museum, and "reaping" the prosecution.

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Сообщение от Allena

In this case we are dealing with people who do not even have religious fanatics

Granted, we are dealing with religious obscurantist.
A obscurantism - a very hostile attitude towards progress, education, science, obscurantism and reactionary.

[tchaika]

"The Italian sculptor created a statue of the pope, has fallen as a result of a meteorite. It was a big scandal, the famous Polish actor Olbrychski burst into the Warsaw gallery with a sword of kinoshnogo uniforms, and he built there wheelhouse. Olbrychski And - this is a very cultured man."
(Yakov Krotov http://odgroup.narod.ru/Samodur_21_01.htm)

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I agree, we are dealing with religious obscurantist.
A obscurantism - a very hostile attitude towards progress, education, science, obscurantism and reactionary.

Tudyt it to swing.

And if people (like me) does not like "progress", "education" and "science"?

For us to be uvazhalovo?