Trinity Rublev /Sad news from the Tretyakov Gallery

[Wladzislaw]

Sad news from the Tretyakov Gallery
Well, here - we can assume that long-standing truck drove towards me in all its glory. And since the wake does not succeed, I'll have to finally bound with grenades and go on the warpath.

[ottenki_serogo]

"... obeying someone else's idiotic whim" - called the patriarch idiot is not the best tone for a specialist on ancient art.
however, the User of constantly resorting to cheap tantrums and inspirational metaphors: "... tie round grenades and tp

now enough restoration experts in the spiritual dignity of, including among the monks, to comply with all procedures for preservation of the icon.

[Евгений]

ottenki_serogo, you're right.
Rublyovskaya "Trinity" exhibited Crimean shaft, the exhibition "Europe-Russia-Europe" in the summer of 2007-pontovatsya before foreigners can, and in the temple can not be transported to Moscow, can and can not be 30 km.
Conditions on the Crimean shaft are the same as in any church .. crowd, such as temperature, etc.

[dedulya37]

In order not to offend anyone tell tolerate: I think here the question is broader and it is about pop olizah.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

Well, here - we can assume that long-standing truck drove towards me in all its glory. And since the wake does not succeed, I'll have to finally bound with grenades and go on the warpath.

anti-Christian, antipravoslavnoe vozvanie girlfriend and I will not mention.

[Allena]

"Trinity" - is primarily an icon, and then a work of art, a masterpiece and so on. Icon to the church, and especially "Trinity" in the Trinity-Sergius Lavra can not be bad.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Allena

"Trinity" - is primarily an icon, and then a work of art, a masterpiece and so on.

If this icon in his time not treated as a work of art, we are now is a work /icon is not seen b.. How much already. This is an old argument, it refers to the icon. Believers its approach, the art-its.
But I want to remind the faithful that we have 5%, the strength of 10%.
A "Trinity" Andrei Rublev, a national treasure, and not the property of the priests.

[Glasha]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

But I want to remind the faithful that we have 5%, the strength-10%.

Is it really so little? From these figures, Cyril?

[artemirra]

surprised judgments of the forum - people seem to be "not far" from the art ... "Icons in the church can not be bad" - but about the candles, soot, hundreds of people during the service? you know? about that, what route we have to Sergiev Posad?
Or there about the fact that conditions on the Crimean shaft - the same as in any church? You often go there? devices that monitor temperature and humidity conditions, see?
As for LJ-nick - why is it "hysterical", or even if it was true, what attitude is his personal "anti-clericalism "???? Yes, let him at least three times likes or dislikes the ROC, it is important first of all what he says about the icon and its position as a specialist?
Well, of course, that can understand the scientific researchers and restorers of the Tretyakov Gallery ....

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Сообщение от ottenki_serogo

Cyril, what kind of logic? robbed the church, within which these works were created, and now they say: "You spoil, we will not!

why, excuse me, the ROC must do something to return, while others do not? her alone, that I "robbed" ... let's make restitution and return all the previous owners (in this case, their heirs)? see, what then of the museum collections will ...

By the way, you know, where in six months then will all these "returned values"? Yeah, auctions ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Gala

Is it really so little?

How to count. If a census, there every-Orthodox. 85%, it seems. A 5-10%, it is still a lot of it on holidays in the churches say. You yourself can multiply the number of churches in the number of parishioners and to compare these hundreds of thousands of people.
Now all Denominations problem-no one in the churches serve. Build something built, but the people something and no. The people there and no money. Priests really do not have, as before. Began to look all over the place running. Who wrote books, who tracks who breeds bees (in rural areas) to feed the family ...
On the TV, then everything is OK, but in reality, things are not really a fountain, sorry for the freestyle in this thread, I'm not religious, I am forgiven.

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Сообщение от ottenki_serogo

robbed the Church,

And others say that the Church is robbed for centuries. Farmers in progolod hundreds of years and humped on the bar, and the priests. But still praying for paternal zapreshali (split), the people in the taiga corners of the priests and the authorities 400 years buried.