Anti-Stalinist show on Vinzavod

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Сообщение от Pavel

Do you want to say against the Soviet people, ie, against your grandparents and then against you? Or not?

Yes, of course.
But what conclusions about the people you just do?
And if you mean the Soviet people, the Germans had military units and other peoples of the USSR.
For example, the Volga Tatar Legion (Legion Idel-Ural "/SS-Waffengruppe Idel-Ural)-unit of the Wehrmacht, which consisted of representatives of the peoples of the USSR Volga (Tatars, Bashkir, Mari, Mordovians, Chuvash, Udmurt).
Or Georgian Legion, the Armenian Legion, the Armenian Legion, Turkestan Legion, Grenadier Brigade of the SS (1-Belarus) /Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (weissruthenische Nr. 1), 30-Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1-Belarus) /30.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (weissruthenische Nr. 1), etc.
About the Baltic and Ukrainian national units Waffen SS, I do not say-they are all familiar.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Yes, of course.
But what conclusions about the people you just do?
And if you mean the Soviet people, the Germans had military units and other peoples of the USSR.
For example, the Volga Tatar Legion (Legion Idel-Ural "/SS-Waffengruppe Idel-Ural)-unit of the Wehrmacht, which consisted of representatives of the peoples of the USSR Volga (Tatars, Bashkir, Mari, Mordovians, Chuvash, Udmurt).
Or Georgian Legion, the Armenian Legion, Legion Azerbaijan, Turkestan legion, Grenadier Brigade of the SS (1-Belarus) /Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (weissruthenische Nr. 1), 30-Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1-Belarus) /30.Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS (weissruthenische Nr. 1), etc.
About the Baltic and Ukrainian national units Waffen SS, I do not say-they are all familiar.

So with the findings?
About the Kalmyk people you already have a conclusion.
How about other people?

Not all of Kalmyk, like those other people you listed.
Traitors were not many and they just caught and so loved by you Cheka, who heroically fought with all the offspring of treason with the help of the local population. This is also the victim? By the way, the plan Barbarossa, they too were to be destroyed as inferior peoples. It is necessary to enumerate or enough of your transfers.
Bastards have all peoples and all these were just gangs Waffen chastisers and executioners.
Yes, some went to the betrayal, but the Nazis destroyed our prisoners and we did not and do not create them military units and generally treated them very humanely.
How grandparents?

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Сообщение от Pavel

How did my grandfather and grandmother?

You talking about?
Let alone the findings.
So what conclusions?

Сообщение от Pavel

mind which side in the war took Kalmyks, not all of course, it can be concluded.

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Cyril Syzranskiy, What is the meaning of Paul T. zadavatt questions?, He just ernichaet in every subject about Stalinists .. meaning at all with him to have a discussion?, He simply flood and all ..

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To avoid any illusions about the state positions relative to the period of destruction of their own people, bring all the official document.
 
MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

INFORMATION AND PRESS DEPARTMENT
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119200, Moscow G-200, Smolenskaya Square Hay., 32/34 tel . 495) 244-4119, fax :244 4112
e-mail: dip@mid.ru, web-address: www.mid.ru


Comment Information and Press Department Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia in connection with the signing of the proclamation by the President of the United States in 2008 on the occasion of the "Captive Nations Week"


1104-26-07-2008

Last week, U.S. President Bush signed another manifesto on the topic "captive nations" with whom he appears annually on the basis of the law passed in the days of the Cold War. In general, all as usual, but this time you will receive one "innovation": unequivocally equated between Nazi Germany and Soviet communism, which are now treated as a single evil »XX century.
Whatever attitude the American president to the period of the Soviet Union and communist ideology, which, incidentally, were subjected to objective evaluation in a modern, democratic Russia, free from ideological stereotypes of the past, neither from a historical point of view nor from a human, those American "parallel" does not stand up to scrutiny. While condemning the abuse of power and unjustified severity of domestic policy of the Soviet regime of that time, we, nevertheless, can not indifferent to attempts to equate Communism with Nazism and to accept the fact that they were motivated by the same thoughts and aspirations.
Historical facts irrefutably show that it was the Soviet Union made a decisive contribution to victory against Germanic fascism. It is thanks to the Soviet Union, selfless heroism and the labor of the Soviet people, Europe was saved from the Nazi occupation and subjugation. This memory will remain forever in the hearts of grateful descendants.
The phrase, which was signed by U.S. president, can not hurt the hearts not only of Russian participants of the war, but I think, and veterans of other countries in the coalition, including the American, who fought shoulder to shoulder for the overall victory and shed their blood on battlefields in the name of freedom and the future.
By the way, we can not see that the estimates of this kind only feed the efforts of those in the political, selfish purposes sought to falsify the facts and rewrite history again. All this against a background of extraordinary tolerance shown by the United States to those in several European countries are trying to whitewash "its" minions Nazis.
Sadly, the new realities of the XXI century old cold war for the minds of the people continues, and using questionable methods. This is the wrong way.

July 26, 2008

Draw your own conclusions from the phrase Official documents: "While condemning the abuse of power and unjustified severity of domestic policy of the Soviet regime of the time."
It turns out was not a genocide against its own people, but only the abuse of power and unjustified severity.

And HOW do you think?

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Eugene, I in the format of this forum is interesting is this: how does the hatred of a painter to one and all for sale works by this author.
That is, if I'm in the studio with some of the author heard of Stalinist-Beria bredyatinu, right away or maybe see something from the work of the Stalinist-painter?
And more.
Strongly whether this translates hatred for "enemies of the people" on the canvas? Is this hatred shine through smears?
For me as a dealer is important ... nothing personal, just business. (c)
 I, of course, some observations made already in this part, but it started again their soobrazheniyane double-check there are no superfluous.
While it is possible for nothing to get such important information, Eugene, should not miss this freebie.
I'm personally going to the army nahalyavu health and knowledge gain. (c)

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Strongly whether this translates hatred for the" enemies of the people "on the canvas? Will this hatred shine through smears?

Painting it with him, but strangely, normal .. God will judge him, let him advocate Stalinism.

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Сообщение от Eugene

Painting is his, if not strange, normal ..

I do not know, I do not know ...
I went to his painting with the business community went up. I went, I see and think to myself: "No, I would have boiled to such a painting is nothing if it took her to sell."
So, thinking out loud.

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Сообщение от inquisitive

What do you think?

There are official data:
According to the latest Russian data, in the years of repression (1920-1950-e) in the Soviet Union about 13 million people were sent to concentration camps, about 6 million have been forced expulsion, about one million - were shot.
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There is an opinion of Russian President:
The President felt it necessary to emphasize that winning a war and the industrialization of the Soviet Union is obliged to the people, not Stalin. "Crimes of Stalin can not belittle the deeds of the people who won the Great Patriotic War. To make our country a mighty industrial power," - said Medvedev.
"I am convinced that no development of the country, none of its successes, ambitions can not be achieved at the cost of human suffering and loss"
Oktyabr.2009g.
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Medvedev denounced Stalinism, stressing that this is the official position of leadership.

"If we talk about the state assessment of how Stalin was estimated by the government in recent years, since the emergence of the new Russian state, there is a clear assessment of - Stalin committed mass crimes against its people. And despite the fact that he worked hard, despite the fact that under his leadership the country has succeeded, what has been done with regard to their own people, can not be forgiven, "- said the president.
7 maya.2010g
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Like everything is clear and understandable ..

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Eugene, I in the format of our forum-Investing in art - interesting thing: as affects the hatred of a painter to one and all for sale works by this author.
That is, if I'm in the studio with some of the author heard of Stalinist-Beria bredyatinu, right away or maybe see something from the work of the Stalinist-painter?
And more.
Strongly whether this translates hatred for "enemies of the people" on the canvas? Is this hatred shine through smears?
For me as a dealer is important ...
nothing personal, just business. (c)
 I, of course, some observations made already in this part, but it started again their soobrazheniyane double-check there are no superfluous.
While it is possible for nothing to get such important information, Eugene, should not miss this freebie.
I personally am going to the army nahalyavu health and knowledge gain. (a)

Here are my "sense". TOKM for personal gain.

At the individual go when wrong, and no more arguments.
And as for my paintings can not worry-I do not work with resellers, because it reduces the value of the paintings. The art's not the purchase and possession. An unknown artist can be known and may depreciate. you already know this by the example of Mason.