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Старый 29.05.2010, 15:48 Язык оригинала: Русский       #11
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Natalia Orlova (discussion on the project "snob"):

"My great-grandfather and great-grandmother was taken to 37m.
My grandmother was never able to find his father, and only in 1955 received the reply that he was shot in 38.
Komissarzhevsky Nikolai Fedorovich
Born in 1879, Moscow, Russian; higher education, b /n, a writer, without a definite occupation. Lived in: Moscow, Maly Afanasevskij per., 1, Apt. 5. Arrested on October 1, 1937 Verdict: ECCU USSR January 8, 1938, OBV.: Espionage. He was shot on Jan. 8, 1938 Place of burial - burial place - Moscow Region., Kommunarka. Rehabilitated December 7, 1955 ECCU USSR

My grandmother always told me about these terrible years ...

This is a terrible time. And it should not be forgotten. And it is simply impossible .. "
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Старый 29.05.2010, 16:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #12
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Daria Violina (discussion on the project "snob"):
"I never take part in mass rallies, but in this case can not join the project" People against Stalin. "

My grandmother Lydia M. Frenkel (Violina) - prisoner of the infamous camp Akmolisk wives of traitors of the Motherland (ALGERIA). At age 29 she was sentenced to 5 years, as the wife of a traitor to the motherland. Male Alexander Frenkel in 1931, was shot ...

Story of her grandmother, camps, Algeria and many other things I told in the documentary "We will live" (it premiered on the channel "Culture" October 30, 2009 in the Memorial Day of victims of political repression).

27 May, I will not be able to go out with a rag, because flying to Astana for a scientific conference and a meeting of descendants of prisoners of Stalin's camps. I must say that in Kazakhstan, as elsewhere, honor the memory of innocent victims of political repression, and I will tell you there about the rally in memory of the project "Snob. For Russia it is rare, but your idea gives hope ...

Thanks to all the organizers and all who join the rally in memory!

Daria Violina ... "

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Старый 29.05.2010, 19:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #13
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Yevgeny Mitta (discussion on the draft "snob"):
".. Of all my many relatives in the war killed only one, the younger brother of his grandfather. The rest were all repressed in the years 1937-1939, they were later exonerated.

For example, Lazare Kaplan, a lieutenant colonel, a military scientist, a chemist. He was shot in the number of senior military case Tukhachevsky.

His sister's husband grandfather, a diplomat and editor of Izvestia, one of the founders of the library of the Academy, was accused of Trotskyism - because once in the 20-ies has voted for some kind of resolution there Trotsky. He had a wonderful library, many rare and valuable books. After his arrest, they were all on the street and there is rot, because people were afraid to deal with them, afraid to save. It was not far from Hot boulevard.

And a tragic story of a brother of my grandmother. He was a pilot. In the 37 th year, was arrested and sent into exile. There he learned that the war began. Together with his friend, he decided to escape to the front to help the motherland. But they were caught, they were accused of treason in an attempt to break through the Germans to help them in the fight against the Soviet Union. These were shot virtually without trial ... "
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Старый 29.05.2010, 19:57 Язык оригинала: Русский       #14
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Maria Hesse (discussion on the project "snob"):
"..... The horror of the totalitarian regime is that it makes each and every citizen of the country in his accomplice. In the Stalinist state could not stay with a clear conscience. This is how the regime made each of his victims - because everyone was, and the executioner. ...."
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Dmitri Barshevsky (discussion on the project "snob"):
".. My grandfather - Dmitry Ilyich Barshevsky. I never saw him again. He died in 1937, long before I was born. I was named in his honor. All that remains of his burnt-out life - some photos and these yellowed papers.
When shooting movies "risk", "Moscow Saga," "Heavy Sand" we pay the duty of remembrance throughout the generations ... "
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Natalya Violina (discussion on the project "snob"):

".. In this portrait of my mother - Lydia M. Violina-still bears the name Frankel. Under this name she was arrested in the 1938th, under it spent five years in Algiers (Akmola camp joined the Bolshoi Ballet). The portrait was immediately after his return from camp. Mama had not yet met my father, has not yet started a new reading of her life, the second part of which was three times as long as the first.

     Mother died, in the new millennium. A year later, our family began work on the film "Moscow Saga". World heroes of the novel was clear and close, conflict and scenes are familiar. The fate of the young heroine - the beloved, beautiful, happy woman, after her husband sent to the camp, largely built on mother's stories. It was my mother arrived in Algeria in an overcoat, saturated with perfume Chanel № 5. In the steppe in the pouring rain coat has become a forgotten exude scent - his unmistakable many. This episode was the scene of the "Moscow Saga". Just like my mother's story of the mess in which they are not stirring a drop of oil, to impregnate them coarsened skin - suddenly come in handy with their beauty?

Stories of each of them would be enough for a hundred series. They will never see them ... How could they know that on-site ALGERIA now a memorial, and the word Akmola will remain forever in the name of this place ... I bow to everyone who remembers ... "

                                                                           Natalya Violina
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Старый 29.05.2010, 20:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #15
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Dmitri Barshevsky (discussion on the project "snob"):
".. My grandfather - Dmitry Ilyich Barshevsky. I never saw him again. He died in 1937, long before I was born. I was named in his honor. All that remains of his burnt-out life - some photos and these yellowed papers.
When shooting movies "risk", "Moscow Saga," "Heavy Sand" we pay the duty of remembrance throughout the generations ... "
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Старый 29.05.2010, 20:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #16
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Natalya Violina (discussion on the project "snob"):

".. In this portrait of my mother - Lydia M. Violina-still bears the name Frankel. Under this name she was arrested in the 1938th, under it spent five years in Algiers (Akmola camp joined the Bolshoi Ballet). The portrait was immediately after his return from camp. Mama had not yet met my father, has not yet started a new reading of her life, the second part of which was three times longer than the first.

     Mother died, in the new millennium. A year later, our family began work on the film "Moscow Saga". World heroes of the novel was clear and close, conflict and scenes are familiar. The fate of the young heroine - the beloved, beautiful, happy woman, after her husband sent to the camp, largely built on her mother's stories. It was my mother arrived in Algeria in an overcoat, saturated with perfume Chanel № 5. In the steppe in the pouring rain coat has become a forgotten exude scent - his unmistakable many. This episode was the scene of the "Moscow Saga". Just like my mother's story about the mess in which they are not stirring a drop of oil, to impregnate them coarsened skin - suddenly come in handy with their beauty?

Stories of each of them would be enough for a hundred series. They will never see them ... How could they know that on-site ALGERIA now a memorial, and the word Akmola will remain forever in the name of this place ... I bow to everyone who remembers ... "

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Старый 29.05.2010, 20:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #17
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Andrei Konchalovsky: (from a personal blog on the project "snob" about my grandfather, who 18 years was afraid that he'll take to the Gulag, and hit the German camp with his entire family .. "

. In our family of Stalin's repressions were no fatalities in the camps were the two brothers Sergei Vladimirovich: younger brother Michael and middle brother, Alexander, because one of them was captured, and the second was captured, escaped, had organized a guerrilla group, In short, it was such a violent fate. But as soon as he crossed the front line to her, he too was in the camp.
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the part where my grandfather was there such an epic, I would say the saga. My grandfather had several sisters and brothers, Peter Petrovich Konchalovsky, from the mother. And the elder brother Dmitri Konchalovsky, who was a professor of history, read the history of Roman law at the university. And in 1922 or 1923, when the Bolsheviks began to censor and censorship led to the university, he was asked to write summaries of their lectures. He is outraged, and he said that never before anyone not report that reads, so he would not write summaries, the more he read his lectures mainly on land reforms, the brothers Gracchi and economic stratification of the late Roman Empire. In short, he refused, and he was immediately dismissed from the university.
He was a stubborn man and no longer taught. When in the mid 20's to live, he was not on that until 1928 he had the opportunity to be published in Britain, wrote articles in English journals, in Oxford, in scientific journals of historical, he was given even the Oxford doctorate, an honorary doctor of Oxford University, and he could get money. But after the arrival of Stalin, all closed, and in 1928 he could no longer, in the 30's he could not receive money from abroad and was not able to send and could not be published, in general, his life was very hard. And he began to fear that he'll take and go to jail. And, actually, he left Moscow in Belarus, lay on the bottom to avoid being noticed.
People who left Moscow and went to the bottom, they were less visible to the eye of the NKVD, and they both fell quickly. But when in 1939 Nazi Germany had already sensed that there would be war, then Dmitri Konchalovsky, much to the dismay of my grandfather, came and said: "We're just waiting for the Germans would come, because they freed Russia from the Bolsheviks. Well, can you imagine the state of Petr Petrovich Konchalovsky, when a cousin of things said. In short, Dmitri went back to Minsk, the war began, and he was sitting there waiting for the Germans, actually, he met them. In the hope that they finally, first, to liberate Russia from the Bolsheviks and give him the opportunity to engage in scientific and teaching activities.
It was a disaster for the family of my grandfather Konchalovsky, afraid to remember his name - I do not know anything until the 60-ies. And I know that when his son Dmitri learned that his father remained in the occupied zone, in general, has become a collaborator, he threw himself under a tank with grenades, knowing that it will still be shot. So, Dmitri Konchalovsky gave teaching at the school, he began to teach. And two weeks later, after the occupation went on, Minsk was occupied, he saw a Jew being dragged by the beard of the Gestapo - it was the first thing he saw such behavior. Immediately rushed after them, went to the Gestapo and said (he spoke fluent German),: "How are you, a nation of Schopenhauer, and Rilke, allow such horrible acts against people?" Well, actually, he was immediately taken away, they took him and his family: two daughters, his wife, sent to a concentration camp. So he is 18 years or some such time afraid to get into the gulag, and landed in Nazi concentration camps.
There he sat, of course, for him it was an absolute shock and discovery, for him it was a tragic discovery, where he stayed until 1944. In 1945, when Soviet troops approached the camp, he realized that if he was found, then it just shot and take it, as a traitor. And he called himself in the camp of a different name so as not to hurt Konchalovsky he took the name of Stepanov. This surname Stepanov, he exchanged letters with his sister - my great-grandmother, who lived in Paris. She sent for them as its distant relatives, they went to Paris, just slipped from the hands of SMERSH and the KGB.
That's how he ended up in Paris, and quite a long time nobody in my family did not know that they survived. Because they were afraid even to write that they are alive, and in the mid 50-ies has come news that they are alive, and that Dmitri alive. It was a shock for my grandfather, but Dmitry Konchalovsky was absolutely irreconcilable antibolshevikom and remains an enemy of Soviet power, so it never came to Jerusalem, and we never talked, or rather, never met.
I then met with my aunt, her daughters Dmitry. They are also extremely anti-Soviet mood and bitterly, and said that Peter Petrovich also Stalin Prize winner, generally in the family Mikhalkovs all Soviet and sold out to the Bolsheviks. So they, in fact, this belief had lived all his life until the end. Dmitry wrote a wonderful book "Ways of Russia", and I drove it in the pants across the border into the Soviet Union, when I was first or second time, came to Paris. She then said to me made a lasting impression and in many ways shaped my understanding of how Russia .. "
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Старый 29.05.2010, 22:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #18
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I guess if you describe many people who really do not understand (or those who fear to understand, or just to be witty flirting her alleged lack of understanding), a shroud, and a peace and a life they will say:" So arranged hell ".
Very good that talks about it, thanks
Eugene, that created the topic, why many do not see the whole horror and the nightmare of the system, the Stalinist system?



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Старый 29.05.2010, 22:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #19
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very well that talking about it, thanks
Eugene, that created the topic, why many do not see the whole horror and the nightmare of the system, the Stalinist system?
Yes, everyone can see and horror and nightmare. Just 90's gave a new horror and nightmare. Then at least was the class struggle with the white controlled and war, and now people are "just" fall into the garbage, and dying from the capitalist goods and values.



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Старый 29.05.2010, 22:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #20
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Posav, at which the garbage? who are dying and what have Western goods and values? Here you are talking about now?



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