"Holy Russia" in Paris, the exhibition at the Louvre until May 25

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Originally Posted by tchaika

And you, Cyril, Ivan Shmelev read?

Here, you are now advised, I will read.


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Originally Posted by tiffany

Icons XIV-XV centuries .. became known only after the revolution. They were dragged into the daylight of the churches, lifted the salaries, painting opened, it became evident. The whole world saw it and gasped.

It is not.
Even in the XIX century. began collecting ancient iconography.
There was a lot of collectors and have been decrees on the establishment of museums.
 
Start collection of ancient art at the Tretyakov Gallery was laid by PM Tretyakov: in 1890 they were acquired from the collection of icons, IL Silin, displayed in the halls of the Historical Museum at the time of VIII Archaeological Congress in Moscow. In the future were made and other acquisitions from other private collections, including the collection of N. Postnikov, SA Egorova, antiquary, P. Ivanov. It consisted of the icons of the Novgorod and Moscow schools; icons strogonovskih letters (ie, created in workshops owned by rich people Stroganoff). Among these acquisitions were such masterpieces as the icon "King King" ("Queen of Repre») XV century, "Good fruit doctrine" early XVII century, written by Nicephorus Savin, "Alexei Metropolitan» XVII century.

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzranskiy

Here, you are now advised, I will read.


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It is not.
Even in the XIX century. began collecting ancient iconography.
There was a lot of collectors and have been decrees on the establishment of museums.
 
Start collection of ancient art at the Tretyakov Gallery was laid by PM Tretyakov: in 1890 they were acquired from the collection of icons, IL Silin, displayed in the halls of the Historical Museum at the time of VIII Archaeological Congress in Moscow. In the future were made and other acquisitions from other private collections, including the collection of N. Postnikov, SA Egorova, antiquary, P. Ivanov. It consisted of the icons of the Novgorod and Moscow schools; icons strogonovskih letters (ie, created in workshops owned by rich people Stroganoff). Among these acquisitions were such masterpieces as the icon "King King" ("Queen of Repre») XV century, "Good fruit doctrine" early XVII century, written by Nicephorus Savin, "Alexei Metropolitan» XVII century.
Read: Lazarev VN "Russian icon painting from its origins to the beginning of XVI century,
where the first chapter is called: Chapter I Opening of Russian icons and its study.

I see no contradiction. When the 19 th century, some collector was acquired 1-2 icons 15 th century, it is not about opening this layer iconographic art. It is absolutely natural that when they started to close the church, here's the got to these ancient icons. I can also add to your passage.
Even in "History of the Russian State" Karamzin mentions the ancient artists, provides details about their products. They have become the subject of study for historians, but the real discovery of the iconic treasures happened later. The fact is that people are nineteenth century, ancient Russian icon painting is really easy not seen. Dark, covered with dust and soot that remained in the ancient temples of frescoes and mosaics, and literally became invisible icon - the main, the largest part of the ancient heritage. After all, frescoes and mosaics, in particular, were decorated in ancient times, not every church, and the icons were required not only in every church, and in every home. The reason for this invisibility icons - in the particular painting technique in which they sozdavalis.Doska, which must be written by an icon or covered with gesso primed fabric - velvet, and the image itself was applied but the soil tempera, ie mineral paints. A top image was covered with a layer of varnish. Drying oil well showing color and, more importantly perfectly protects the icon of the damage. However, linseed oil has the property over time, darken, and for 70-100 years, it was the dark so much so that almost completely concealed, under her paintings. So in 1840 the historian Ivanchin-Pisarev, sow the Trinity-Sergius Lavra, was able to see in stored there silnopotemnevshey "Trinity" by Andrei Rublev, the most valuable works of art.
Until the middle of XIX century the general view remained that "making art put back in our homeland Peter I".
Further more interesting. At the beginning of XX century, even before the 1917 revolution in Russia began to organize exhibition of old Russian icons, whereby short-term Russian icon has been recognized as one of the highest achievements of world culture. The famous French painter Henri Matisse (1869-1954), visited the exhibition of ancient icons of 1911, said: "Russian is not suspect what artistic treasures they possess. Italy in this field gives less ".
In 60-ies of XX century for many fans of the national culture discovery of ancient icons is done by writing talent, VA Soloukhin (1924-1997), who has devoted an icon many pages of his works, "Letters from the Russian Museum" and "black".

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Originally Posted by tiffany

I do not see the contradiction.

And I can see.

Originally Posted by tiffany

If the 19 th century some was purchased by a collector 1-2 icons 15 th century, it does not mean the opening of this reservoir iconographic art.

If you are not in the topic, do not expose themselves to ridicule.
"1-2 icons ... '
A Collection of Shchukin, Ostroukhov, Count Uvarov, SP Ryabushinsky, AP Bakhrushin Bobrinsky, AA Brokar, Guchkov, Giraud, Sollogub, Kharitonenko, P . VP Shibanova, Shirinsky-Shikhmatov, O. and LL Zubalovo EE Egorova, NM Postnikov, SK and G. K. Rakhmanov, AV Morozov?

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In a private collection Shchukin was an enormous amount (more than 1000?) Exhibits related to the art of ancient Russia. But how many of them were icons of 15 th century? One embroidered front surface of the icon (Moscow, 1389) and two are the same sheet (Moscow, late 15 th century). I course. And you have not even named, but just moaning about nothing.
I think it s perfectly understand what I said. But something (the unconscious?) Forces you to be rude. And do not lead a normal dialogue.

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Originally Posted by tiffany

I think it s perfectly understand what I said. But something (the unconscious?) Forces you to be rude.

No, I do not understand what you said. And I do not grublyu, and speak frankly.

Originally Posted by tiffany

Wild Frenchmen.

This is understood. You can even repeat after satirist Zadornov: "Stupid, these Americans are stupid-e-e!"

Originally Posted by tiffany

They still have not heard about it.

Who? What?
Can not answer: I read about the darkened varnish is not very interesting, as you mentioned Soloukhin books I read in the 72 th year.