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Старый 11.05.2010, 03:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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And the fact that Kirill Syzranskiy relatively useful, it is so. But to whom and in what field? That is the question!
 I just try to be objective, not creating a graven. For me as a person, just trying to understand the intricacies and laws of the art market, some reports Cyril were helpful and it does not matter which served as their primary source. In comparing the usefulness of the information for the forum proposed Vladimir and Cyril, I definitely opt for the latter.
  Write more you and I pleased to heed your words and . "To me, any useful information from competent people.

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Sur, excuse me, please, if I offended you with something in their discussions about Armenia. Just seemed to me at your post about the Dashnaks that you are faithful Armenian. I argued in this vein.
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 I am an Armenian and Russian orthodox Muscovite. When I take out national issues, such as who I consider myself a Russian or Armenian I answer that: "Englishman." Typically this my answer is limited to .
 Vladimir, I want to give you good advice, do not dive with Cyril, he is still better than you versed in matters of art. Even better try with no one to argue without extreme need for it. It is better to look for like-minded people and learn from them.
 You're an expert on construction, (which in itself is a very serious and responsible work), but do not try to instruct experts in the art.



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My position has always been simple: if a person likes to Russia, I personally have it much easier.

But only if you love Russia, but did not speculate on his paranoia, hatred of other countries and so on.

Vaughn painter Viktor Ivanov, a kommunyaka and Russia loves, and I love him, and he treated me well:

- Here you are so anti-Soviet, and for that I love you? - Said Viktor Ivanovich.

The communists hated Russia.

From this and we should proceed.

I do not believe in the 17 million civilians and 8 million soldiers lost in the years of Germany and the Soviet war.
Quite the contrary: 17 million soldiers and the civilian population of 8 million (and then only with difficulty be typed and no one tried to calculate at least in general? Given that Russian and Ukrainians, Germans, and especially not systematically exterminated).

So, if Russia passed just as the French, the loss would be a thousand times smaller.

For me the main thing in Russia - a nation.

And when people are allowed at the root - something to celebrate on May 9?

Destruction of the color of my people?

Just do not about the mythical plan "Ost" and other Labuda.

Would have coped with Hitler Mirikau - about three years later, but not with the same surreal losses, after which the Soviet leadership had to go and shoot.




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Старый 11.05.2010, 03:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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Lord, do not waste your time! "

Here come the morning to work "evil moderator" Gregory and all portrait. It's too bad .....

For such disputes excellent characterize people. But many wonder our mutual dislike of watching after moderation beatific and relatively polite images instead of "star wars". But no, no, yes, and flashes a message from Gregory: "I wiped on the topic 86 messages! Most active will now ban!"

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Good night! Or have a good morning.

If there were a chance to read all the pearls Cyril Syzran, which erased the admins (and I understand them) ... Oh, it was that something! Do you remember these incredible combination of rudeness, stupidity, anger, ignorance, conceit and a special kind of animal cunning, liberally seasoned with quotations from movies and jokes! " Charming, as adorable! Yes, times were "... Happy were the days! ...

P.S. We had to keep a personal archive ...




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Старый 11.05.2010, 03:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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So, if Russia passed just as Frenchmen, losses have been a thousand times smaller.
 History does not tolerate the subjunctive, but God forbid that it was because you wrote it. Thinking this way you diminish the importance of victory we celebrated yesterday.
 I think that we now live together in a completely different world (if you lived). It is exact Americana was not released to Russia. We live in an empire you understand it. Do you know a lot of historical examples where the fallen empire revived?



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Старый 11.05.2010, 03:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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History does not tolerate the subjunctive, but God forbid that it was because you wrote. Thinking this way you diminish the importance of victory we celebrated yesterday.
And I do not attach importance to this, I may say, "victory".

I am interested in the existence of the Russian people, and if kommunyaki not hung over Germany, none Russia was not necessary, I assure you.

It was such a loud environment ...

Not to mention the fact that the same as its occupation.

Even if you put in every area of the division, it's 70 divisions should be.
But where to find them?


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I think that we now live together in a completely different world (if you lived). It is exact Americana is not released to Russia.
How dear!

He was released they half of Europe.

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We live in an empire you understand it. Do you know a lot of historical examples where the fallen empire revived?
Empire collapsed in 1917, it did not come back.

I am a nationalist - a populist, not a nationalist-statists.

In Russia I can attach to Norway, I pofig, if only my people lived in a democratic state and the king-father (konung).



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Старый 11.05.2010, 03:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #46
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I'm just trying to be objective, without creating a graven. For me as a person, just trying to understand the intricacies and laws of the art market, some reports Cyril were helpful and it does not matter which served as their primary source. In comparing the usefulness of the information for the forum proposed Vladimir and Cyril, I definitely opt for the latter.
  Write more you and I pleased to heed your words and . "To me, any useful information from competent people.

sur, agree with you, really does not matter from what sources of information was received which has brought benefits. But the main thrust of my message is not in this, and that the harm that Cyril Syzranskiy Forum inflicts immeasurably greater than the meager benefits that it brings. I'm so confident saying this because I know how many of my St. Petersburg and Moscow colleagues and friends refused to write in the forum, for reasons that I outlined above.

And the fact that I do not write, I know myself and ask me for my forgiveness. (I remember about your question in one of those and be sure to answer it) is sometimes not enough time. Still, the main reason, just is, that I by nature a perfectionist, and I can not afford to write only for the fact that to write. A training quality post takes a long time. Of course you can write any nonsense about politics, history, about what does not understand or pretend to sort out what have no idea, but it is a luxury not available to me. You see, this is not in my nature. Yes and write lowered his hands, when you know that what may be a boor, it's all debase.
  
Cyril Syzranskiy to whom it is useful and thank God, but I know for sure that it is bad for business networking and intellectual conversation. And the Internet, it's a very numerous audience! Find it people can be very different, important to understand who you want to find her, with whom to communicate. This market could be much more interesting if her were not just housewives, amateurs, and even crazy, but more high-level professionals, and just nice people capable of intellectual conversation.




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Empire collapsed in 1917, it did not come back.

I am a nationalist - a populist, not a nationalist-statists.

In Russia I can attach to Norway, I pofig, if only my people lived in a democratic state and the king-father (konung).
 No words. Or go to the Polish way, stand on the street to shake my gear.



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Старый 11.05.2010, 04:06 Язык оригинала: Русский       #48
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No words. Or Polish go through, stand on the street and shaking my gear.
And who shakes my gear?

Now the Polish economy on the rise, with very steep.

Country makes automobiles, TV sets and thousands of other things.

And I assure you, it is about 10 years will outstrip and Portugal, and Spain for the standard of living and level of economic development.

Lots of things done in Poland, all are not listed.

And just because people want to live in Europe, want to be Europeans, not Asians, as it wants the Russian population (not the Russian people, please do not confuse).



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I'm so confident saying this because I know how many of my St. Petersburg and Moscow colleagues and friends refused to write in the forum, for reasons that I outlined above.
 And you try to convince their friends. Click the topic that - something like: "Me and my friends" and try to reverse the situation if you do not like. Try to create an oasis of alternative communication in your topic.
 Thank you, that you remember my question.

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And just because people want to live in Europe, want to be European, not Asian, as it wants the Russian population (not the Russian people, please do not confuse
 Russia reaps any kaftanchik with someone else's shoulder. Do not try it to her to try.


When we understand ourselves as an imperial, a great nation, and stop to read Polish, European, American, etc. ways, then and only then would begin in Russia
present national recovery.
  Do not we need to knock on doors to European, but Europe should be written to us for the reception. To be able to reverse the situation, and Edit the situation existing today, that's one of the main tasks that must be faced Russia in the coming years.




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with your application.

In our class did not enter the Komsomol five.

Under my strict guidance.

Some grade 10 and then entered, and several people do not come at all.

Were going to second year at university, yielding a tearful entreaties of my friend, the wife of my friend, who was secretary of the Komsomol organization.

Only because of my sensitivity and love of neighbor allowed himself to be a spot on the biography.

A kommunyak I have always hated and never thought that they represented the interests of the Russian people.

The interests of the Russian people, represented by General Wrangel, General Vlasov, President Boris Yeltsin.



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My position has always been simple: if a man loves Russia, I personally have it much easier.

But only if you love Russia, but did not speculate on his paranoia, hatred of other countries and so on.

Vaughn painter Viktor Ivanov, a kommunyaka and Russia loves, and I love him, and he treated me well:

- Here you are so anti-Soviet, and for that I love you? - Said Viktor Ivanovich.

The communists hated Russia.

From this and we should proceed.

I do not believe in the 17 million civilians and 8 million soldiers lost in the years of Germany and the Soviet war.
Quite the contrary: 17 million soldiers and the civilian population of 8 million (and then only with difficulty be typed and no one tried to calculate at least in general? Given that Russian and Ukrainians, Germans, and especially not systematically exterminated).

So, if Russia passed just as the French, the loss would be a thousand times smaller.

For me the main thing in Russia - a nation.

And when people are allowed at the root - something to celebrate on May 9?

Destruction of the color of my people?

Just do not about the mythical plan "Ost" and other Labuda.

Would have coped with Hitler Mirikau - about three years later, but not with the same surreal losses, after which the Soviet leadership had to go and shoot.


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And I do not attach importance to this, one may say, "victory".

I am interested in the existence of the Russian people, and if kommunyaki not hung over Germany, none Russia was not necessary, I assure you.

It was such a loud environment ...

Not to mention the fact that the same as its occupation.

Even if you put in every area of the division, it's 70 divisions should be.
But where to find them?




How dear!

He was released they half of Europe.


Empire collapsed in 1917, it did not come back.

I am a nationalist - a populist, not a nationalist-statists.

In Russia I can attach to Norway, I pofig, if only my people lived in a democratic state and the king-father (konung).

Some stream of paranoid delusions ... (note the form of presentation - jerky, chaotic, unstructured speech)


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paranoid syndrome

This type of mental disorder, which manifests itself in a systematic interpretive delirium.

Interpretative paranoid delusions, or delusions of interpretation is based on violation of the abstract knowledge of reality. The system of delirium is based on the chain of evidence with subjective logic, and the facts appearing sick, to prove his delusional system, are treated extremely one-sided, the facts are in contradiction with the stated vision, are ignored.

Occurrence of delirium preceded by the so-called state of delusional mood with uncertain anxiety, intense feeling of impending danger, alert the perception of what is happening around. The emergence of delirium accompanied by a subjective feeling of relief, feeling that the situation became clear, and uncertain expectations, vague assumption crystallized into a clear system.

Perhaps nothing but the gradual development of paranoid syndrome in the stages of supervaluable formations and overvalued delirium. In these cases, overvalued concept that arises in the patient as a first sign of sickness, accompanied by the development of interpretive delirium is often not systematic, but is closely linked to the plot containing supervaluable formations (supervaluable delirium - by K. Birnbaum, 1915). On the possibility of expanding overvalued delirium due to other psychopathological disorders, wrote C. Wernike. The concept of transition supervaluable formations in supervaluable presentation of delusional content and supervaluable delirium has been convincingly demonstrated for K. Birnbaum (1915, 1928) and confirmed by the works of VM Morozov (1934), AB Smulevicha and MG Schirinoy (1972). Sometimes the paranoid delusion develops suddenly, sharply, according to the "enlightenment", "sudden thought."

Paranoid delusions extremely varied in content: delusions of jealousy, where individual suspicion and neutral facts linked to the system of evidence of treason partner's love raving with conviction in her feelings on the part of any person, often occupying a high position, delusions of persecution, resulting in a firm conviction that a person or group of people watching the patient and pursue it with a purpose; hypochondriac delirium, manifested by patients in the belief that they suffer from an incurable disease, and result in a system of evidence of this. Often there are reformist delusions, delirium Body dysmorphic disorder, etc.

In some cases, paranoid delusions restrict the content of jealousy or persecution or reformism (monotematichesky delirium), in other delusions of different content occurs in the same patient series, or what happens much less frequently, almost simultaneously (polythematic delirium). Various contents of delirium can be combined into a single system, or exist in isolation.

The degree of systematic delusions has important prognostic value: high usually indicates a sufficient stability condition, while the lack of relationship between the individual story of delirium in the picture of a paranoid syndrome indicates instability syndrome and the possibility of transforming it into other, more serious and complex condition.

Patients with paranoid delusions are usually characterized by high activity: some are struggling with the pursuers, being "persecuted persecutors," or, alternatively, migrate to escape from his pursuers, while others followed the marriage partner in order to detect an imaginary opponent, and still others seek a comprehensive medical examination to confirm diagnosis, etc. Such patients characterized by the thoroughness of thought, confined to delusional content or extending the thinking in general.

Paranoid syndrome in some cases is a chronic condition, in other developing acute. The chronic form of syndrome differs progredient development of delirium, gradual expansion and systematization of pathological content, without severe affective disorders, thought disorder, the monotony, the growth of personality changes. For the acute form is characterized by the sudden and rapid formation of delusional system, the possibility of episodes of acute sense of delirium, the brightness of affect and well defined state with a subsequent disappearance of all these disorders.




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