What is art?

[Peter]

Сообщение от curious

Result creativity.

Any creativity or creativity has a certain quality?

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Peter,
What quality of picture is an artist, not recognized during his lifetime?
The theory of relativity Einstein's what quality?
So we arrived at the station "Art".
Discuss?

[Peter]

Сообщение от curious

Peter,
What quality of picture is the artist, is not recognized in his lifetime?
The theory of relativity Einstein's what quality?
So we arrived at the station "Art".
Discuss?

What does the admission or rejection? By quality I mean soderzhanie.Chem napolneno.Eto can be a spiritual message, virtuoso technique, relevance or aestheticism, and perhaps all of this together vzyatoe.Imenno what distinguishes Art from neiskusstva.Teoriya relativity in its harmony may come under the category of art, only a mathematical, as well as beautiful chess partiya.Krasivo because garmonichno.Garmoniya underlies any art.

[sur]

Сообщение от Peter

What does the admission or rejection? By quality I mean soderzhanie.Chem napolneno.Eto can be a spiritual message, virtuoso technique, relevance or aestheticism, and perhaps all of this together vzyatoe.Imenno then What distinguishes art from neiskusstva.Teoriya relativity in its harmony may come under the category of art, only a mathematical, as well as beautiful chess partiya.Krasivo because garmonichno.Garmoniya the essence of art.

 Who dares to give a definition? Believe that any debate should result in the result. Otherwise why do they behave?
  Our discussion will be held to consider if the result will be a satisfactory answer to the question in the title theme .
  Which in fact and can be considered the definition of words: art.
 Otherwise I do not see any sense to support it.

Сообщение от fborth

"Art is a ministry and joy. Serving the artist who creates it and creates in order to engage and we concelebrated with him. The joy of the artist, creates, and then, created in his work a new method life, and gave us contemplate, this undeserved joy ...

 And if you passed the pain, fear, hatred - is also a joy?

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от sur

Who dares to give a definition?

I believe that any debate should result in the result. Otherwise why do they behave?
 

What is more arrogant than me, may dare to undertake such a definition?

Thinking about sore, I somehow found myself for a definition of what is real iskusstvom.Srazu also anticipating the possible charges in the complete absence of my relevant theme of education and a diploma, yet I beg to draw attention to the footnote "From the Editor ...". However, in some areas of contemporary conceptual art, I have profiled diploma (see below).
So, after disputes with friends and acquaintances on the modern (and not only) of art, I was able to find a perfect definition of art that has nothing to do with stereotypes, education and science, ideology, nationality, level of artistic training, etc. and etc.. This definition is purely scientific. I would even say, an engineer, in full accordance with my education:

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For me, art is what I am under no circumstances I can not repeat itself.

Even if I learn a hundred years, even if I give the most sophisticated equipment and instruments, even if I offer any, millions and billions. Art does not depend on technology and skill of the artist. I have often observed, when even the artist himself is unable to repeat the picture painted in a specific time under the influence of mood, emotion or inspiration. Soul, in short.

I'm not an artist, I like that joke from the Chukchi: "Chukchi not the reader, Chukchi - a writer." I - Collector. But I can not quite put together the installation itself or to draw a blue monochrome. I can not completely screwed to the wall and connect multiple fluorescent lamps, as was done in the Pushkin Museum in the exhibition "300 years of American Flag. Art "(2007) unknown to me an electrician. Incidentally, I myself am an electrician diploma, issued in the Soviet Union, so that in this, believe me, I'm a good specialist. Once in the workshop of one artist, I drew his attention to the set of all kinds of lamps and bulbs, which he clocked at the ceiling to provide proper light in the long winter evenings. Along with spectacular piece of the old, artistically curved plate, it gave the impression of a far more spectacular than what I saw then in the Pushkin Museum. But nobody in their right mind came into our heads to call it art.

See the book:
Museum of Modern iskusstva.Nyu York. 2005 WORD

And ask yourself questions:

1) Can you repeat a bunch of wires and bulbs, as I did on page 281 Rodi Graumans? Incidentally, he is my age, but I no longer winding up the wire for the money, and earn a living exclusively own mind.

2) Is it possible to endlessly produce on a conveyor SMART automobiles, as on page 291?

3) Can I use the screwdriver to attach to a wall shelf, as it did on page 274, Robert Ryman?

4) Can we again expanded corrugated board, as it did on page 275, Frank O., Jerry?

5) Can I also "highly artistic" hang on the wall felt like it did on page 255, Robert Morris?

If you have positive answers to these questions, then ask yourself one more - then what is this American Flag. "Art". And if he should emulate?
You should not confuse art and design. The picture and poster. Graphs and photos. Soul and the free market.

[Peter]

Unfortunately now, such things as art, artwork, hudzhnik very razmyty.Dumayu, that without the art business here is not oboshlos.Kak distinguish art from blundering? Only developing your own taste, while developing sebya.Dlya I was always a tuning fork or point of departure was soperezhivaniya.esli sense it is, it is at least the art, if not .... maybe I'm up to it had not yet matured .

[sur]

"Why is the road that does not lead to the temple?" - Remember her grandmother from the film "Repentance"?






 Real art should lead us to the truth (God) and /or praise him, and the fruits of his labor.


 

 This is my definition of art. People with similar views on the world asking him to clarify and supplement, but disagree in principle, I ask not to comment on my words because I disagree with them in the axiomatics and above I have written.

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Сообщение от sur

"Real art should lead us to the truth (God) and /or glorify it, and the fruits of his labor.

I have something not quite understand your perception.
If you limit the scope of art religious theme, then where then is Shakespeare?
From his questions, contrary to religious dogma.
So you agree with Shakespeare or with church dogma?

[sur]

Сообщение от inquisitive

So you agree with Shakespeare, or with church dogma?

 I do not see any contradictions. I therefore said to myself these questions. I think that Shakespeare responded to them as well.


 Sorry, I may later added a postscript.

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от sur

 This art should lead us to the truth (God) and /or to glorify it and the fruits of his labor.

  This is my definition of art. People with similar views on the world asking him to clarify and supplement, but disagree in principle, I ask not to comment on my words because with them I disagree in the axioms and the above written by me.

I have an ideological agnostic, but I will not express their disagreement with your principles. You have every right to their own ideas.

But I want to point out that in terms of your Gd, God, Allah (located on seniority), it believes more than 1 billion people on planet Earth. You deny the rest of the art 4.5 billion? Buddhists, Hindus, sintonistam, atheists ....