Competition of anti-Stalinist poster "Not one step back!"

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

Russians for their interference in their plans to control the wealth of our country.

This is what is it?
Honey, furs, wax, hemp?

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

It seemed to me that neither Tjutchev nor Evgeny not defend Stalin. They both wrote in the previous letters about the same, but different words.

I believe that the initiative Luzhkov rasshumevshegosya of posters with the image of Stalin, was disgusting and untalented PR. Either neobdumannnym statement in delirious nonsense. The politician has to think before you speak, or he may drag the country into war.

At the same time, the initiative of the magazine Snob for a poster competition anti-Stalinist orientation just before 9 May is seen as a provocation. Provocation against the Victory.
How would you have a poster competition dedicated to victims of fascist camps, sponsored by the company would be producing ... let's say, a furnace for the crematoria?

And everything would be quiet, if carefully and politely to all citizens of Russia held an exhibition of posters, ranging from posters of the war (with the same Stalin) to the posters anti-Stalinist orientation. But really not so primitive as a simple inscription "For the Motherland without Stalin."

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

This is what is it?
Honey, furs, wax, hemp?
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I've already written:

Сообщение от Tjutchev

Cyril Syzranskiy, denying the obvious, you relegate the discussion to the level of the sandbox. The Forum is already turned into a "chicken coop". The discussions on historical and political topics should be conducted either at a high intellectual level, or not to do. With this kind of your statements, the forum has become a laughingstock. Surely no one notices that the forum is degrading!
 
Moscow and St. Petersburg laugh at what is happening here! Forum to engage with the level of not very far away "guru". It can not be called an intellectual forum in which seriously deny the real motives behind the U.S. attack on Iraq (these motives are obvious even to Americans) and questioned the importance and significance of Russian art (which is recognized by intellectuals around the world).

Laugh alone and nothing else!

I have nothing to add ...

Strange some dialogue, however.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

I have nothing to add ...

Then do not cry about the "wealth of our country."

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

You relegate the discussion to the level of the sandbox.

In-in, "Americans want to capture our rich land."
I know that in kindergarten.

[Евгений]

Just good poem ... (EA)
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And we're brother of infantry,
And in the summer better than winter,
With the war finished we abacus
Take the coat, and went home.

The war we bent and mowing,
Was over and she herself.
Four years without a mother, son
Take the coat, and went home.

By the ashes and ashes of our streets
Again, again, my friend!
Starlings lost returned
Take the coat, and went home.

And you closed eyes
We slept under the plywood star.
Get up, get up, a brother,
Take the coat, and went home.

What I say your home,
How do I get up in front of a widow
Could swear the day yesterday,
Take the coat, went home.

We're all crazy war children
And the general and ordinary.
Again the spring in the world,
Take the coat, and went home.

Bulat Okudzhava

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Eugene

So I dealt with topics on art, the topic of the post: contest anti-Stalinist poster "Not one step back!". What is the problem?

Eugene, his view of the history of the Stalinist period of the Board, I outlined above. With regard to this contest, this is pure politics. This contest is not in the least moves us closer to understanding the complex and controversial events. Everyone, including the curators, and artists of this project and spend the money they paid. From the artistic point of view, this event is of little interest. I am sure that you understand this. I do not understand why the Forum acting on art in the platform for propaganda? We are here because they are interested in art. This is what unites us. All of these contests - it is very vulgar. That few people interested in here.

I do not even want to talk about that some of these posters just an insult to me. I repeat, they do not reveal any truth about this history, but only propagated in the minds of ignorant new ideological cliches. Art is not here! Because there is no truth behind this. For example, the art of the avant-garde 20-ies is interesting that people who create it, believe in what they advocated. They were intuziastami his case. This was romance! And so it - the real art! And the fact that you showed it - debauchery and vulgarity.

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

I believe that the initiative Luzhkov rasshumevshegosya on posters with the image of Stalin, was disgusting and untalented PR

Luzhkov markups below frivolous politik.http: //www.youtube.com /watch? v=oDbGpYtlm3Y

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I gaze at the world from under the table,
The twentieth century - a century of extraordinary.
Than a century, more interesting for the historian,
But for contemporary sadder! (c)

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Wasted effort - no, they did not repent -
Than liberal, so they went,
Civilization - their fetish
But it is not available to them the idea.
As to it not to rot, gentlemen,
You do not have gained recognition from Europe:
In her eyes you will always
Not a servant of Education, and slaves.

May 1867

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

The fact that you showed it - debauchery and vulgarity.

Once started, yes?
Poor ...
You have to turn to the experts, or what?

[Любознательный]

Let me get into a poetic duel with the official estimate of the period of Stalinism.
"... Abuse of power and unjustified severity of domestic policy of the Soviet regime of the time" - Commentary Information and Press Department Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia in connection with the signing of a proclamation by the President of the United States in 2008 on the occasion of Captive Nations Week "

№ 1104-26-07-2008.

If you have any interest, I am ready to give comments in full.